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Yamenja In reply to ??? [2008-11-16 09:52:01 +0000 UTC]

aw thanks

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AndyFairhurst [2007-01-14 00:05:38 +0000 UTC]

Lovely pencil work here! Love the tones

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Yamenja In reply to AndyFairhurst [2007-01-14 09:29:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much

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BitterGrapes [2006-11-17 17:06:21 +0000 UTC]

That's TIGHT!
Lil talented thang, you!

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Yamenja In reply to BitterGrapes [2006-11-17 17:11:01 +0000 UTC]

Aw thanks sweetie.

Btw I been meaning to thank you again for featuring my trane pic in your journal
, as I'm sure its generated some favs n nice comments, you promotin it like that ...I really appreciate it. And you!

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BitterGrapes In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-19 16:17:30 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. You KNOW I love your art. I'm always looking forward to seeing what's next!

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Yamenja In reply to BitterGrapes [2006-11-19 16:46:26 +0000 UTC]

That works both ways....!

I've been trying to submit the coloured version of this for the last hour or so - the new, streamlined submission interface driving me nuts - will be great when it works properly though!

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BitterGrapes In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-19 23:38:13 +0000 UTC]

I hate that new interface.

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Yamenja In reply to BitterGrapes [2006-11-20 11:36:22 +0000 UTC]

I would like it, if it allowed me submit. Drove me nuts trying. In the end I had to send it to myself at work and submit from there....and then I wished I hadn't - cos not only was it a bad photo, but maybe the WIP was better anyway!

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BitterGrapes In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-21 11:08:27 +0000 UTC]

I hate it even more 2 days later.

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Yamenja In reply to BitterGrapes [2006-11-21 16:26:43 +0000 UTC]

I feel you.

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larkin-art [2006-11-16 01:47:01 +0000 UTC]

nice tones and contrast good treatment of fabric too, esp. in the hat, gives a real sense of depth.

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Yamenja In reply to larkin-art [2006-11-16 08:31:01 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much Larkin

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Denis-Peterson [2006-11-15 20:11:22 +0000 UTC]

Hadn't seen this one...it is a very softly rendered drawing that brings out the humanity and personality of the subject (and of the artist!)

If the hat is any indication of the direction you are headed, this one will be a real standout as to tone, surface, and illusional depth. I know that you enjoy more expressive images, but do give this one a proper chance, as it has an appeal that other super realist drawings ordinarily lack. This one combines technical proficiency with feeling.

Before you try more smudge tools, take a try at using paint brushes which are subtractive and quite amazing in their effect on pencil drawings. You may never go back!

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Yamenja In reply to Denis-Peterson [2006-11-15 20:18:29 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I dont know what to say!

Thank you very much for the kind words, encouragement and guidance Denis.

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Webb97 [2006-11-15 17:34:12 +0000 UTC]

amazing eyes.

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Yamenja In reply to Webb97 [2006-11-15 17:42:20 +0000 UTC]

Aw thanks Webby Webb.

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artfromsouldesigns [2006-11-15 04:42:17 +0000 UTC]

I keep comming back to this image since it was posted admiering it getting swallowed by sadness, sinking.

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Yamenja In reply to artfromsouldesigns [2006-11-15 17:41:31 +0000 UTC]

Well, I am touched that it evokes such feeling in you, although I would prefer not to make you sad.

It's interesting though - I realised I had not quite captured his original expression, but I had not thought much about the one I bestowed, except to note there was less hint of a smile. When I read your words and then looked at it though, it was as if there was a great sadness there, that was being held back.

Thank you for giving it more depth than it might otherwise have carried.

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artfromsouldesigns In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-16 10:36:17 +0000 UTC]

you are most welcome (:

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a-black-rose [2006-11-14 05:53:10 +0000 UTC]

WOW really so reaLLYy cool.. love his lips

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Yamenja In reply to a-black-rose [2006-11-14 13:17:41 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much indeed. He has got a really beautiful mouth!

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keight [2006-11-14 04:33:23 +0000 UTC]

I really like this piece. I really do. I apologise for not being more specific, but I'm not quite back up to speed yet.

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Yamenja In reply to keight [2006-11-14 13:20:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much indeed Keight - I'm more than happy with you non-specifically liking it!

Your recent submissions looked gorgeous, I'm afraid I didn't get a chance to comment before they got knocked off my devs page (it keeps happening, I'm not convinced yet that it's always my own error!)

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keight In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-14 14:48:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, too. "they got knocked off my devs page (it keeps happening, I'm not convinced yet that it's always my own error!)" sounds like part of the site wide glitches. Have you let the help desk know it is happening to you?

I have been dealing with a couple of root canal jobs, the abcess that made one an emergency, the medications for pain and infection, and weekly visits to my dentist, to space the repair around the healing. Which is the reason I've been looking but not commenting lately. So now, I feel like I'm back in the world again. Just in time for the end-of-the-year-holiday-panic.

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Yamenja In reply to keight [2006-11-14 18:02:45 +0000 UTC]

Wow all that dental trauma sounds hellish. Welcome back but take it easy!

You're right I should let the help desk know...I hadnt thought of it.

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Cobra-Kahn [2006-11-14 02:56:06 +0000 UTC]

nice work not smudging. nice choice of subject. mean emcee wit somethin to say

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Yamenja In reply to Cobra-Kahn [2006-11-14 18:10:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much.

I did smudge a bit.

Yeah hes a fine emcee, his tunes are fabulous too.

Sssss back @cha.

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density-tmr [2006-11-13 23:46:56 +0000 UTC]

Full of character. He seems like a very humble man.

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Yamenja In reply to density-tmr [2006-11-14 18:14:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much.

I think he is humble in some ways, certainly very honest and down-to-earth, but I find quite regal qualities in him too - maybe I will bring those out more in my next go at him.

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RTyson [2006-11-13 18:33:10 +0000 UTC]

looks great already, it will definately be interesting to see how it turns out with colour added.

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Yamenja In reply to RTyson [2006-11-13 19:03:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much!

Any improvement on my previous drawings is due to your guidance more than anything else. I learned a lot from the information you have so kindly shared here.

Well done on Tommy.....all that slog on the sweater paid off in the end! And Scorpio is looking amazing...I love it.

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RTyson In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-13 21:42:39 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

And thank you! It's nice to know I'm passing on some of the tips I've learned here, in fact it's nice to know someone is actually reading my waffle!

Yeah finally finished him, thank goodness!

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ericboler [2006-11-13 06:50:37 +0000 UTC]

very different than your usual style. i like it equally, though. very cool

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Yamenja In reply to ericboler [2006-11-13 18:35:55 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Eric.....both for the encouragement and the insight.

You were the 1st person to tell me my work was recognisable as mine....I never thought it was, but people whose judgement I trust tell me it, so I know it must be right.

I thought this was was pretty typically mine, u know - a bit heavy-handed, something not quite right, probably around the eyes.....so it's really interesting to me that you think it's different. It was certainly an attempt to be....I had checked how people who draw really well work, you know - the ones who makes drawings look like photos - and I set out to make it a bit more realistic than my usual stuff....but of course I got fed up before I got there, haha. I knew what else I should do to improve it, but hell.....I was missing colour and stuff! lol

Ive just been drawing a bit lately cos I want to improve - but in my heart I want to go a lil crazy with colour, lol.

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ericboler In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-13 22:03:59 +0000 UTC]

the thing about it that seems different to me is the depth. it seems more 3D than your other stuff (not like its a good or bad thing), so if super-realism is your goal youre def. on the right track.

personally, i'm more of a color-er, just like you. at times i think practicing to be more precise would help me out, but its too fun just to be loose haha.

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Yamenja In reply to ericboler [2006-11-14 13:27:13 +0000 UTC]

Nah, I've never wanted super-realism, but I do want to be able to produce good likenesses, and once I can do that, then to apply some wild interpretations......I actually feel torn all the time between trying to reproduce what I see, and portraying what I feel, but Ive just been having this little phase of tightening things up a bit. Or trying to.

Loose is the most fun, and I still suspect my spontaneous stuff is the most real. You have to remember though, that I'm trying to catch up with a period of not painting that goes back to before you were a twinkle in your father's eye, as they say....

Stay loose Eric!

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theXianRAExperience [2006-11-13 05:12:11 +0000 UTC]

...and what kind of pencil did you use?

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Yamenja In reply to theXianRAExperience [2006-11-13 18:53:12 +0000 UTC]

Heheh....I used a mechanical with a 4b lead in it, a wooden water soluble 4b and a really old wooden one that the grade has been rubbed off, but I would guess its an HB.

If I had had any hs I woulda used them.

Oh yes - and cotton buds, and cotton wool (no rubbing with fingers) the eraser on my mechanical, a kneadable one and a crap one (that sometimes blend and sometimes erases, almost at random).

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theXianRAExperience In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-14 04:23:15 +0000 UTC]

Cotton wool who...
I could never do that. Teacher made us feel like it was cheating. I know; no such thing as cheating. You use the tools that are around. How can using a blending tool be cheating when they had us rooting about in the parking lot for a proper twig? The lesson: anything can be a drawing tool. Bastard. But I'm forever ruined for the smudge tools (can’t even smudge in Photoshop). I know; it's a sad thing really. I... -sniffsniff- I cry about it sometimes.

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Yamenja In reply to theXianRAExperience [2006-11-14 18:08:58 +0000 UTC]

If your work is anything to by, it seems your teacher was a master. Cant argue with the results.

I can understand the rule....I think I was restrained with the cheating (haha) but as mentioned to RTyson, having looking at what the people producing photorealistic drawings do, they use cotton buds and funny things on the end of pencils (not erasers, other weird things) I used one of those a little too, but I find the ones I got dont blend so much as remove a layer.

Dont cry. Your stuff is too beautiful to want it smudged.

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theXianRAExperience [2006-11-13 05:11:33 +0000 UTC]

Now that's a good drawing. Good energy about the page and good tone. How big is this piece?

I ask
1.) Because I think it could stand alone, and
2.) Because you could run off some copies and paint/color into them. That way you're freed up to experiment and if it doesn't work out you still have a strong original piece to work from and finally
3.) Hell, I don’t even think this needs color, muted or otherwise. Besides being a striking likeness to the reference pic, it's a good enough piece of work to stand on its own

...Anyway, just my humble observation.

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Yamenja In reply to theXianRAExperience [2006-11-13 18:49:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for saying such nice things....I know you always say nice things about my work cos we r buddies and you got a big heart, but these are a different kind of nice.


It's A4 size.
I think the idea of printing a copy to do the colour thing on is right....and I could do more to improve the drawing.....*but*.....alas, it is too late.

Ive added colour to the face and now I need more lightness that I can get from coloured pencils and I'm a little stuck....if I use acrylic then I wont be able to fine tune afterwards with pencils, cos it flakes (I did that on my pic of Ali that I couldnt bear to finish or submit after killing it with pencil of top of acrylic on top of pencil). If I use gouache (which Ive never used, and only have a mega cheap set of) then it will either be so thick it will obscure all the pencil work, or if I think it a lot, the whole thing risks becoming all wavy and soggy and god-knows-what.
How does bristol board generally react to a good soaking? I guess I may need to run some tests.

I haven't totally fuggled it up yet, I dont think, but am certainly at quite a tricky crossroads!

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theXianRAExperience In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-14 04:09:31 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. Since it's A4, maybe you could have the local copy professionals (do you have Kinko’s in Brighton?) print it on something sturdy like some Strathmore rag paper or a good heavy weight crescent board.

Or, lay down the colors with the pencil, then copy it onto the heavier paper or onto some canvas. Yeah! Canvas. That way, at the end of your project you’ll end up with two pieces. Hell, you could even scan it into the computer and try to paint with the compu… No. That might drive you completely nutters, as it has driven me (at a rate of speed incalculable by primitive Earthly mathematic equations) . Yeah!

Canvas.

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Yamenja In reply to theXianRAExperience [2006-11-14 13:31:24 +0000 UTC]

I will refer back to this very helpful guidance if ever I'm about to mess up another graphie job!
Thank you

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theXianRAExperience In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-14 16:24:15 +0000 UTC]

I do it all the time. Scan stuff in because when I work I know it'll take two or three tries before I get the piece close to what I see in my head.

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Yamenja In reply to theXianRAExperience [2006-11-14 17:47:37 +0000 UTC]

Damn....you can get things close to what you see in your head? It makes sense cos your stuff is amazing, but damn...!

Although I generally start with an idea of where I want to go with something, I never seem to go there.

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theXianRAExperience In reply to Yamenja [2006-11-15 05:42:10 +0000 UTC]

My Soweto Kinch CD Came today. 'Bout to have a conver"sation with the unseen". Hmm, maybe I'll be inspired to draw.
Nah!!

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Yamenja In reply to theXianRAExperience [2006-11-15 09:38:28 +0000 UTC]

Thta's weird, I just replied to this but it disappeared, talk about an unseen conversation....(ah).
Anyway I hope you enjoy it at least half as much as I do. I think it was the best choice, of the two, to begin with.

To hell with drawing! (More about that later though)

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Yamenja In reply to theXianRAExperience [2006-11-15 09:33:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh that's nice...I didn't know you'd ordered it.
I hope you enjoy it. I think it's the best one (of the 2!) to start with.

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