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Zucca-Xerfantes — More proof Obama lives in a bubble...
Published: 2014-03-13 21:49:48 +0000 UTC; Views: 2164; Favourites: 25; Downloads: 1
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There's so many nails in this coffin by now that there's more nail than coffin, but hey, I'm on a roll today.This ties into a recent journal I made here: zucca-xerfantes.deviantart.com…
Not in the past (Burning the Great Library) and not in the present (See above) and only if the cowed, moderate Muslims stand up against the violent fanatics will the future be free of these kind of horrors.
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I think not only this nails the coffin, but it has made a coffin out of nails.
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Where in the Quran does it say that is alright
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Islam is the black sheep of Abrahamic religions.
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Strange how Egyptian President Sisi contradicted Obama a few years later, right there in Cairo, when he told all the imams that they needed to assume responsibility for all the religious killings they were inciting others to do, now and through the ages.
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The more things change, the more they stay the same -_-
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Eh Christians we be persecuted but ya know "to live is Christ, to die is gain." Irregardless of what happens Christians know that separate from the body is united with Christ. It's the non-believers who just don't understand and look for blame. Blame the fact that we live in a fallen world, and God has provided salvation through Jesus Christ. I want to get to the point in my faith where something like this doesn't scare me but makes me stronger.
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l.o.l, just look at Islam's past, in the very beggining, it's all about jihad
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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I have, my friend... I truly have.
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I don't believe any more that he is clueless or out of touch. He is intentionally running cover for the terrorists and deliberately ignoring evidence of their ideological motives.
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You're right... -_-
I had wished for so long that he was just a bumbling moron, but recent revelations have made it feel less and less so.
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I thought he was being Carter 2.0 too for a while. But even Carter tried not to get burned twice on the same mistake and tried to fix problems instead of widening them or going on golfing trips or all-expense-paid vacations every other week. It's become clear to people like yourself that he is deliberately undermining the USA at home with his reckless expenditures and divisive social & security policies. He is deliberately undermining the USA abroad by abandoning and insulting our allies, kissing up to or ignoring our enemies, and letting the world burn rather than taking steps to put the fires out and make it a safer, more prosperous place. He gave fair warning when he said that he felt elected "to manage America's decline", and God help us, he meant it.
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Fundamentally transform us he vowed, fundamentally transform us he has.
We'll endure and this too shall pass.
Reckoning will be *harsh* for this worm. >_>
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Islam represents the Muslim culture.
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But in reality it doesn't, it's its primary component but the culture is more than it's religion
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True point, but, in regards to the some twenty Islamic theocracies on the planet, it is bound to be questioned.
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So much for tolerance, looks like Obama has been wrong again.
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A proud tradition of tolerance, riiiiiight. "We'll 'tolerate' you as long as you be good little dhimmis, pay your jizyah, and let us rape and kill you for our own amusement."
Good piece!
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I'm a spiritual person and a skeptic at the same time. Spirit had to *earn* me. Religion doesn't hold the answers for *me* in particular, but I believe in God and recognize the teachings of figures like Christ, Buddha and Confucius to be what they are... inspired teachings on leading a good and moral life, corrupted over time by those that would use devotion as a means of control.
The patterns of history are clear. When ever a good, noble thing arises, there are leeches swimming about to latch on and curb it to their own parasitic ends.
Very nearly all of us can all agree that taking care of the planet is important. But the first people who spoke about it, about sensible methods to reduce energy dependency, keep the environment clean and generally be better stewards were overshadowed by figures like Gore, who preach patent falsehoods, believing the ends justify the means, while living high on the hog with reckless disregard for the environment they claim to love.
And in just such a way, kings of old used religion to sway the masses to their ends and as a result, the message became diluted.
Religious folk are not evil, nor is their belief foolish. But when they *permit* themselves to become as swept up in fervor to do evil to their fellow man as the Democrats were swept up in fervent support of Obama, then they surrender their free will.
And while Christianity suggests turning the other cheek, Islam demands *submission* or death.
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I like your thinking pal. I'm a practicing Christian but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate the teachings of historic figures other than Christ. I've had Buddhist/Hindu friends and acquaintances. If I had to be locked up for a period of time, I'd easily be able to tolerate having a Buddhist cell mate. They're peaceful people generally.
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Quite so. Thank you ^_^
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A very interesting way of looking at things, I must admit.
I don't know much about Al Gore in all honesty though.
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Your leader only believes in reality when it suits him to do so.
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Hoooo boy, he is NOT any leader of mine.
He is president of America, and that's it.
But yeah, you're right. The guy lives in a state of perpetual self-delusion.
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I dunno. They have (sporadically) tolerated minority religious groups for numerous centuries in their own countries when they coulda just eradicated them like what they did with Bhuddists in India. I think thats something.
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Sporadically being the key word.
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Hey, uhh, quick note.
If you don't know anything about the religion, don't insult it.
I'm tolerant of all religions, and I haven't ever dared insult any because someone, somewhere holds those beliefs deep in their heart, closer than any political ideology can penetrate.
You are outright bashing a beautiful idea (whether it be Islam, Christianity of Judaism), whilst not knowing a thing about any of them (the exception would be Christianity, since you are quite the Conservative I presume you are one).
Get this clear:
- Killing anybody for any reason besides "Jihad" (which must be a swear-word to you or something) is forbidden under Islam.
- The only thing that can be considered Jihad is fighting to protect the Ka'bah (Basically, Mecca).
Any other insane fanatic who claims to be going to fight in the name of Jihad and God will eventually burn in hell fire, because they are not true believers.
Considering those idiots as Muslims is like considering KKK members "good Christians", whilst they hang and burn blacks. They seem to forget the part where Jesus stated that "God showeth no partiality".
Also, people can't stand up to these nutjobs because they're all armed and dangerous; it's a proper secular government that prevents this (kinda like how Iraq never had any fanatics or terrorists before the Americans invaded, but the second they destroyed the former government, they just started popping up).
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Mido, we often *passionately* disagree on things and admittedly, my attitude hasn't been the best it could be. I could blame the piriformis syndrome causing intense pain, but everyone's got choices, and while rage made a hell of an anesthetic, it was a poor debate companion. This time though, you're talking all kinds of sense.
I'm not cheesed that Obama is saying something nice about Islam. That's not it. I'm a practicing Sufi/Christian/Reiki healer and Sufism is a sect of Islam. Pacifistic in nature. Where traditional Islam sees the world divided into things that are 'God' and 'Not God', Sufism sees God in all things.
Sufis also get killed on occasion, just as Christians are. -_-
I'm not calling the religion itself out.
I'm calling out the individual nutcases.
Same with Democrats. Most of the ones in D.C. can get bent. The majority, I have no problem with. And if you could see some of the things I tell my fellow Conservatives (And get my head bitten off over) then you'd understand my stance.
Just as the KKK and Westboro are not atypical of Christianity, the radicals of Islam are not atypical of all Muslims.
And I didn't say standing up to the crazies would be easy. But if Islam wants to take their religion back from the destructive ones, they need to refuse to help. They need to get verbal.
It won't be easy and I can talk a fine line about courage being half the world away, but my peril is immaterial. The solution is there.
Personally, I can't wait for the day when the moderates take it back and the malcontents become as much of a punchline and laughingstock as the KKK and Westboro, never to be taken seriously again.
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Democrats created the KK and that disgusting group and the westerboro (also created by democrates) people can get flushed with their passionate hatred. They are the farthest thing from christianity and they do NOT have an association with it.
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Zucca you just gain my everlasting respect
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Wow, I agree with everything you said, haha!
Very true, however Sufism is a sect of Islam that advocates complete (moderate; not extreme) devotion to God. Basically, achieving "Fitra" (perfection in mind, body and soul) and complete love for God.
It's a beautiful idea, yet very very difficult to achieve since, we all have too many obligations to devote ourselves to a single idea.
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Hmm, when I stopped watching your journals I should of thought of the off-chance of 'art' submissions as well, but really if I uncheck both I might as well unwatch you. Which I'm not so prepared to do.
Personally I wouldn't take too much from a pro-Muslim quote in the middle of a country touted to be 95% Muslim. It's buttering people up, like politicians do. Draw comparison to the steady lubing of the lower classes' collective asshole as they are anally raped by rampant capitalism.
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Look, let me clarify something here...
I'm not cheesed that he's pro-Muslim.
Wanna get your mind blown a bit?
I'm a practicing Sufi, a sect of Islam. The comparison is imperfect, but it's like the difference between Christians and Mormons.
Sufism is outlawed in numerous Islamic theocracies and they get as much hatred as Coptic Christians do.
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Huh. Interesting. What are the teachings like?
Regardless you kinda missed my own point. I don't know if he's pro-Muslim. Or care, as long as the government adheres to the First Amendment and remains secular, especially despite the Christian national identity. My point was where he made it. A university in a country that is 95% Muslim. It would be a very odd place to speak out against Muslims, and conversely a very likely place to load on some praise, fake or real. To put it in a slightly modified phrase, you don't shit where you eat out. Which is why I wouldn't use the tolerance quote to incite Obama as living in pro-Muslim bubble when Muslim extremism rears it's ugly, ugly head. Which is essentially 99% of this submission. I haven't looked at the journal yet but that's not relevant to the picture. I'm only talking about the picture.
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There are ways to speak that don't feed the rabid, you know.
If he had an actual spinal column in his back instead of whatever jellied substitute he has, he could've said this:
'Islam has been through some rough patches. There have been misguided individuals who defame the good name of Islam and have allowed hatred and anger to take root. But here you are, dedicating yourselves to the cause of learning, growing and casting aside any doubt that you're above violence and extremism. It takes courage to stand athwart the angry few, and yet... here you are. I salute your bravery and wish you all the best. I bid you, stand as shining examples of everything Islam is. A religion of peace.'
But since his backbone is comprised of gelatin... -_-;
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Well call me surprised. That would of been a great speech.
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Thank you.
I'm not *totally* crazy ^_^;
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Oh, I don't think you are crazy, I just think you've been taken for a ride on the propaganda/indoctrination machine in general. Though you could just as easily think the same of me.
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