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ScorpiusOB1 [2024-10-31 17:49:02 +0000 UTC]

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A-gnosis In reply to ScorpiusOB1 [2024-10-31 20:41:34 +0000 UTC]

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GrahamChapman [2020-01-27 19:45:03 +0000 UTC]

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A-gnosis In reply to GrahamChapman [2020-01-31 21:47:01 +0000 UTC]

Oh! XD That's interesting. I don't know much about Japanese folklore.

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GrahamChapman In reply to A-gnosis [2020-02-03 01:56:02 +0000 UTC]

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A-gnosis In reply to GrahamChapman [2020-02-06 19:41:09 +0000 UTC]

That sounds really nice, though. Mythology/folklore and hot tea... Two of the best stuff in life. ^^

Interesting. Are those creatures serving similar functions? Like, as a warning for people to don't get too close to water, don't go too deep into the woods, etc? Would make sense that most cultures have that.

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GrahamChapman In reply to A-gnosis [2020-02-07 02:31:11 +0000 UTC]

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A-gnosis In reply to GrahamChapman [2020-02-14 17:51:44 +0000 UTC]

I'll keep that in mind. ^^
(I live in Sandviken, not Uppsala. It's about twelve mil from Uppsala and it's such a small and boring town that I really can't expect anyone to visit me. XD)

Oh... One of my favorite anime films (not that I have seen so many) is Miss Hokusai, and there I remember that they sometimes referred to courtesans as "foxes".

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GrahamChapman In reply to A-gnosis [2020-02-15 05:29:27 +0000 UTC]

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A-gnosis In reply to GrahamChapman [2020-02-16 20:50:32 +0000 UTC]

Heh! Well, I guess it depends on what you find interesting. Personally I think Sandviken is pretty boring since it hasn't got much history. Before the founding of Sandvikens Jernverk in 1862, not much people lived here. The nature is not so very beautiful either, and very few of the older houses and buildings survived the great demolitions of the 1960's and 70's. I like my apartment, though. It's nice.

Oh, do send me some recommendations.

I think I have seen most of Hayao Miyazaki's films. Mononoke and Nausicaä are two of my favorites (as a kid I actually happened to see the shortened version of Nausicaä, "Vindens krigare", dubbed to Swedish. I think they called her "prinsessan Sandra" XD. I was far too young to appreciate the film back then, though). I'm also quite fond of "Laputa: Slottet i himlen", since I have a soft spot for the idea of ancient, forgotten civilizations with advanced technology (I like Disney's "Atlantis: The Lost Empire" for the same reason, despite the fact that the story in that film isn't so very good. I'm very skeptical to REAL speculations about ancient civilizations with advanced technology, though).

I have seen "Eldflugornas grav" too, but it was many, many years ago, and I was having a severe cold at the time that made me a bit numbed (which I suspect was the reason why I never cried while watching it, because normally I bawl my eyes out to tragic stories like that).

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GrahamChapman In reply to A-gnosis [2020-02-20 16:45:34 +0000 UTC]

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A-gnosis In reply to GrahamChapman [2020-02-24 23:10:58 +0000 UTC]

Oh, so Skultuna is also one of those small industrial towns...villages?
Hehe... Instead of a photographer, we had a working class poet, Stig Sjödin. There are plaques here and there all over town with his poetry.

Thanks for the recommendations! However, I realize now that I have seen quite a few anime movies after all, because I have actually already seen most of the movies on your list. The ones I haven't seen are "Paprika", "Metropolis", "Hellsing Ultimate", and "Patlabor". Have to check them up...

I agree that "Vargbarnen" and "A letter to Momo" are very good movies. In fact, "Vargbarnen" is one of my favorite anime movies.

"Akira" I didn't like that much, though (not that it was bad, the story just didn't engage me for some reason. But it was over ten years since I saw it, so I maybe should rewatch it some day). "Perfect Blue" wasn't quite my kind of movie, either (I remember that me and my föredetta sambo watched that movie on my birthday some years ago, which also happens to be on Valentine's Day, and I really felt afterwards that we should have chosen a less scary and more cute movie. XD)

I agree that "Laputa" is a bit un-Miyazaki-ish for having a bad guy that seems to be downright evil. I once tried to introduce my friend Patrik (with whom I'm drawing the "Johanna comics") to Miyazaki's movies, and Laputa was the only one he liked. I had earlier showed him Mononoke and Nausicaä, but he was either just bored or confused by them. One reason he liked Laputa seemed to be that it was clearer who the good and the bad guys were. Which is strange, because he has normally no problems with more complex characters in European and American movies (he also constantly applied the Christian god concept on the gods in Mononoke and said that things didn't make sense, which was so annoying).

Oh! No, I didn't know that the leader of the pirates was based on Pippi Långstrump. Wow, how cool is that?!

Thanks again for the recommendations! And sorry that it took me some time to reply, I'm a slow writer. ^^

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GrahamChapman In reply to A-gnosis [2020-02-25 22:00:33 +0000 UTC]

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A-gnosis In reply to GrahamChapman [2020-03-02 19:50:17 +0000 UTC]

Well, not that Stig Sjödin is on the same level as Oscar Wilde and James Joyce, but it's the same idea, I guess. (Never been to Dublin myself. In fact, my only trips abroad have been to Greece. If you don't count other Scandinavian countries).

Hehe... Yeah, I suppose it is quite nerdy to study Greek mythology on a deeper level than just reading a mythology book and then make comics about it. ^^ When I was younger I used to see myself as "bortkommen" rather than nerdy, though. I made a test once that was supposed to measure your level of nerdiness, and since there were lots of things connected to nerd culture that I wasn't so very much into (like Star Trekk and war history), the test concluded that I was bortkommen rather than nerdy. XD

Oh shit, they have made a movie of "Uzumaki - Spiralerna"? I have the manga (it was included in a prize I once won at SPX in Stockholm), and while I really liked some of the chapters, there were some parts that I found so disturbing that for a short time I almost had a hard time to eat. XD

I don't think Patrik ever has been that much into mythology. To be honest, I'm not sure how much he even reads my Greek myth comics. I remember that when I was working on my Athena comic, I told him about the myth of how Athena was born from Zeus' head, and he just said: "How could they take such stories seriously?" So I don't think the Greek gods make more sense to him.

He told me once that he usually doesn't like the Japanese way of storytelling. He thought that watching Nausicaä was like watching someone filming the sky. "Nothing happened". And I was like, "What are you talking about?? It happened things all the time!" He also said once that he felt like you have to have an understanding of Japanese folklore and mythology to fully understand many Japanese movies, which he doesn't have. But I have never felt like that. For example, in "Miss Hokusai" there is a scene where a Minotaur-like creature is walking through the street pulling a wagon of fire. Maybe that was a symbol for something, but it didn't bother me that I didn't know.

Ah, yes, I knew that Myiazaki wanted to make a Pippi movie (therefore I really should have seen that the leader of the pirates in Laputa was a homage to Pippi). I'm sure it would have been so much better than that Canadian movie and series that we got instead. Sigh! Did you watch the Japanese series based on Ronja Rövardotter? I thought it was okay, but I'm very fond of the soundtrack to the Swedish movie, so the music in the Japanese series just felt wrong.

Haha, yeah... Brevvänner är man inte bortskämd med. Maybe we should send notes instead of keeping this in the comments...?

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rachelillustrates [2019-10-03 16:19:54 +0000 UTC]

Oh, this is lovely!! I like that we get to see this side of Hekate (she is so chill about what people think of her - so inspiring).

Also, panel 4 is perfection. 

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A-gnosis In reply to rachelillustrates [2019-10-06 22:06:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I imagine Hekate thinks it fun that people see her as a bit frightening. But she also has a tender side.

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rachelillustrates In reply to A-gnosis [2020-02-09 23:17:50 +0000 UTC]

Welcome! And, again, your take on all the gods is just wonderful. 

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bbb35 [2019-10-01 15:46:10 +0000 UTC]

Gottta Love Hekate, dear is nice with kids, just goes to show witches aren’t all bad and can be good.

and I agree, better to pay respect to the one scary enough to scare away the monsters and ghosts.

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A-gnosis In reply to bbb35 [2019-10-01 20:35:53 +0000 UTC]

Yes, the one powerful enough to send ghosts after you should also have the power to protect you from them.

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bbb35 In reply to A-gnosis [2019-10-02 13:56:38 +0000 UTC]

Hey, if Hekate can improve her image, why not Hades?

Course, that would mean...(shudders) socializing.

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A-gnosis In reply to bbb35 [2019-10-02 16:17:41 +0000 UTC]

Well, the thing is that Hekate had a more positive role than Hades already from the beginning. Hesiod describes her as a goddess who gives victory in battle and athletics, helps mariners, fishermen and herdsmen, and acts as a protector of young people. However, she's mostly known as a deity who provided protection during transitions of all kinds (a girl's transition from maiden to wife, or when you have to move between safely defined territories). So even if her control over the restless dead makes her a scary figure, she still has more positive functions than Hades.

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bbb35 In reply to A-gnosis [2019-10-03 13:53:51 +0000 UTC]

True, like how that one Mayan god was all blood and war, but butterflies too.

Something positive to round it out.

Hekate sure has the resume thou.

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Moondancer12 [2019-09-25 23:10:03 +0000 UTC]

Oh lord, Persephone in the first panel is quite literally me whenever someone asks me/makes me hold a baby XD I completely empathize with Persephone over not wanting anything to do with babies/small kids

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A-gnosis In reply to Moondancer12 [2019-09-28 22:48:48 +0000 UTC]

Babies are really not my thing, either (but I grew up with lots of younger siblings, so I have been in that situation many times).

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bhut [2019-09-24 13:35:53 +0000 UTC]

Hekata makes a very cool aunt. Or an elder cousin, I suppose. In other news, Kore failed with the toddler, it looks like.

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A-gnosis In reply to bhut [2019-09-25 11:30:31 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I wish I had an aunt or cousin like Hekate.

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Kuro-Tsuki-san [2019-09-24 08:27:19 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry Persephone, I'm not good with kids ether. 

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A-gnosis In reply to Kuro-Tsuki-san [2019-09-25 11:32:53 +0000 UTC]

Unfortunately, her mother seems to think that all she needs is practice.

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joker-nick [2019-09-23 17:08:39 +0000 UTC]

Hectare lol

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A-gnosis In reply to joker-nick [2019-09-23 17:52:35 +0000 UTC]

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Hera-of-Stockholm [2019-09-23 17:01:14 +0000 UTC]

And lovely Hecate wanders incognito

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A-gnosis In reply to Hera-of-Stockholm [2019-09-23 17:51:51 +0000 UTC]

They probably would have been a bit scared of her if she had told them who she was.

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Hera-of-Stockholm In reply to A-gnosis [2019-09-24 16:28:47 +0000 UTC]

so true. Scared - and embarrased!

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ks-claw [2019-09-23 16:52:28 +0000 UTC]

pfftt poor Persephone. Babies are weird with people. They either want to snuggle up with you, or sound the alarm.

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A-gnosis In reply to ks-claw [2019-09-23 17:50:39 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, some babies smile to everyone and others scream as soon as anyone else than their mother hold them.

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Nelyasun [2019-09-23 16:51:08 +0000 UTC]

fully agree with Septh in the first one

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A-gnosis In reply to Nelyasun [2019-09-23 17:47:26 +0000 UTC]

Me too. ^^

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Nelyasun In reply to A-gnosis [2019-09-23 18:03:06 +0000 UTC]

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