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Description I have often asked myself the question, what would have happened if Germany had been attacked instead of Ukraine on February 24, 2022?
How could they do that and how could Germany prepare for it?

Lore:
At the beginning of 2020, Germany learned through the BND that Russia was planning an invasion on them.
It has been known for a long time that Russia is up to something, as a suspicious number of landing ships from the Russian Navy have been relocated to the Baltic Sea and a suspicious number of transport aircraft and VDV troops have been stationed near Kalinigrad and the capacities of the bases there have been massively expanded, but only at the beginning In 2020 they received confirmation from the BND.
At a few secret NATO meetings it became more and more clear to Germany that none of the NATO states really wanted to help Germany in such a case.
Since it was not known exactly when this invasion would take place, emergency plans were immediately drawn up and the conscript service was reactivated via an emergency meeting of the Bundestag.

After some discussion, it was decided to set up a national guard. This was openly justified by the need to secure the rear of the front, unofficially in order to be able to put down armed uprisings in East Germany.
The National Guard was initially only equipped with Wolf, PPV Panther and M1117 Guardians (Iveco LMV), but later Leopard 1s were added, which were modernized under the pretext "for an unspecified foreign customer".
In addition, they also received Zetros trucks that were additionally armored and equipped with an RWCS in order to be able to cope better in contested areas. As standard, the National Guard soldiers were equipped with old G3s from the reserves


Germany's normal army, the Bundeswehr, was massively expanded from 195000 to 300000 within two years.
Since quick solutions were needed, some of the equipment was simply purchased from the US reserves.
However, since the US defense industry could not deliver the desired quantity in a short period of time, the German defense industry was massively involved.
Since much more was needed for the MBTs, around 360 M1A1G Abrams were purchased from the US reserve, the only modernization of which was an independent thermal imaging optics for the commander.
36 M88A2s were also sent along as this would otherwise have been too many MBTs for Germany's ARVs.
480 M2A2 ODS SA were purchased together with the 360 M1A1 and 36 M88A2, Rheinmetall helped with the modernization.
These were modernized and given the name M2A2G.
The only difference between the M2A2G and the M2A2 ODS SA is that they can use MILAN and TOW ATGMs.
Germany also ordered several hundred M113 APCs from the USA and other countries, which were modernized to the M113A5G.
This modernization included ERA from FFG and a 20mm cannon that can use the same projectiles as those of the Marder IFV.
Around 1,000 Leopard 2A7s were ordered from Germany's own production (including the modernization of the 328 Leopard 2s already in service), 1,200 GTK Boxers and 1,600 Puma IFVs.
Some Leopard 2A4s from industrial stocks were also put back into service without major modernization. A few were also bought back from abroad.

Since the Bundeswehr was looking for a mine clearing vehicle that could clear mines faster than the Keiler, they simply decided to work with the US to equip a few Leopard 2 chassis with the M1150 kit, 40 in total are planned with 16 that have already been delivered.

In the area of artillery, the US sent around 38 M142 HIMARS, which were converted by Germany from their MTV chassis to Rheinmetall HX trucks.
In addition, of the 114 German M270s in reserve, around 40 were modernized to MARS 2 and Germany built its own production of 227mm missiles in a very short time with a production of 600 missiles per month.
As far as SPGs were concerned, around 400 additional PZH 2000 were ordered as a long-term solution and around 96 M109A6s were purchased from the US reserve as a short-term solution. The crews had already completed training in GrafenwΓΆhr before the first M109A6s arrived.
However, the Bundeswehr was also looking for a cheap alternative to the PZH 2000, which would also be manufactured under license in Germany.
The choice was the ATMOS 2000, which was called FH-155-2 in the Bundeswehr.
24 guns were delivered from Israel, 14 were manufactured in Germany before the outbreak of war.
The US also sent 172 M1064A3 mortars to massively strengthen Germany here.

As far as short-range air defense was concerned, it was de facto non-existent in the army before the war, as this area of the army was dissolved in 2011 and the remaining short-range air defense systems were given to the air force and the rest were sold abroad to industry was given away or scrapped.
This area was basically raised again from nothing.
Before the invasion, it consisted mainly of old Gepard SPAAGs because they were available the quickest.
A total of 65 Gepard 1A2s were bought back from the German defense industry and 15 from Qatar, as well as 60 Cheetah CA3s (Dutch Gepard SPAAGs).
However, the 60 Cheetah CA3 were initially only given the task of property protection (for example, protection from power plants).
After the invasion plans became known, the development of the Skyranger 30 and 35 was massively increased and the first ones were ready in 2021.
In addition, a Roland successor was developed based on the Crotale NG.
Also, the Bundeswehr wanted a cheaper alternative in the area of air defense for the motorized infantry, which is why they decided on the MBDA MPVC and equipped it with Mistral missiles.

As far as long-range air defense is concerned, 8 Patriot complete batteries were purchased from the US reserve, but are transported by HX trucks instead of the American HEMTTs.
In addition to their 8 launchers, these 8 Patriot batteries each had 2 experimental launchers equipped with the brand new "SkyCeptor" or also called PAAC-4, so they were equipped with a total of 10 launchers.
However, this has not yet been implemented for all Patriot batteries, as "SkyCeptor" is still in an experimental phase and is still being adjusted during the new production in Germany.
The main decision was to expand the Patriot batteries to 20 batteries, since Germany was already producing PAC-2 GEM-T missiles.
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