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arlejerlutos In reply to hopelessshade [2005-09-02 04:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

Prismas are hard to find in my area. I use Lyra (germany) and Caran D'ache (swiss) watercolor pencils.

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hopelessshade In reply to arlejerlutos [2005-09-04 16:04:26 +0000 UTC]

aaah, well, ive never heard of those, so who am i to say that prismas are fantastic? in my own americanized world, prismas are the pinnacle of color. what are lyra and caran made of? like, the lead inside them. i dont actually own a box of prisma *watercolors*, though....

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arlejerlutos In reply to hopelessshade [2005-09-04 16:44:56 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I've never tried using Prismas (or seen the actual pencils before) so I really don't know about that.

Mmm, I'm not too sure about what the leads are made of.

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hopelessshade In reply to arlejerlutos [2005-09-04 18:43:23 +0000 UTC]

the reason i love prismas so much is because the leads are waxy, so they lay down color much more smoothly than other pencils. but thats just a personal opinion. i may need to try other pencils because prismas are so expensive!

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arlejerlutos In reply to hopelessshade [2005-09-05 03:29:54 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm.. Caran watercolor pencils are more towards "powdery", like watercolor paints. It's easier to create different textures, even on smooth paper.

Just curious, do you use blender pencils (I think Prisma has those) ? If you do, what's it like? Better than alcohol-based blenders(liquid ones)?

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hopelessshade In reply to arlejerlutos [2005-09-05 15:21:31 +0000 UTC]

aaah. so for texture, use Caran? sounds like good information.


ooh, no. prisma makes them, but i refuse to try one. first because my art teacher cant stand them, and i respect her opinion, and second because i dont even use blenders when im working in graphite! ive never heard of alcohol based blenders, though...would that be for paints? i cant see using it on anything else...

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arlejerlutos In reply to hopelessshade [2005-09-05 16:15:38 +0000 UTC]

Well, for Caran, you can work wet-on-wet / wet-on-dry/ dry-on- wet to create textures, in that sense,since it's very water soluble. And lightfast, too.

Alcohol-based(liquid) blenders are like the Copic blender or using denatured alcohol (can be bought from any pharmacy) directly. It helps a lot if the paper you use is thin, unlike watercolor paper which could take more layers of water. It mainly acts as a solvent to dissolve stubborn pencil bits (look pretty smooth after that). Since it evaporates pretty fast, the paper won't absorb most of it unlike water. These blenders work quite well with pencils, graphite, certain inks and some markers. I think the difference between this and "blender pencils" is that blender pencils tend to make certain colored pieces look duller. Liquid blenders are more flexible - they can create faded effects, smooth colored areas, etc. Blenders like the Copic Marker blender comes in two nib sizes (one on each size). An alternative is using alcohol-based markers as a "blender" (just very light tones) , but I won't advise it unless you don't mind staining your marker nibs/allow it to go out of shape quickly.

For paints.. I think paint "blenders" refer to substances that blend the colors in paints during manufacturing or things that help to blend paint (such as brushes). The blenders I was referring to are solvents, which I mainly use for mixed media/pencil/marker work .

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hopelessshade In reply to arlejerlutos [2005-09-05 22:44:32 +0000 UTC]

wow, you're knowledgable! i'll have to see if the art room has any of these special blenders- they may make me change my mind regarding blending!

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arlejerlutos In reply to ophelia13 [2005-09-01 12:02:39 +0000 UTC]

He did? O_o

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ophelia13 In reply to arlejerlutos [2005-09-01 14:43:46 +0000 UTC]

yeah..so I just looked at Janani

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arlejerlutos In reply to pyroice [2005-09-01 03:52:37 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

I was thinking of doing something like this for your characters.

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