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Chipmunqq In reply to ??? [2024-06-25 03:03:14 +0000 UTC]
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tikibombz In reply to ??? [2021-11-25 22:08:43 +0000 UTC]
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ICosmicPotato [2020-03-03 02:12:16 +0000 UTC]
If the father was as self serving as Chui then why let him have cubs with her? 😂
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seals9 [2019-10-02 19:30:50 +0000 UTC]
Chui in panel 3 XD
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Sanluris In reply to seals9 [2019-10-09 21:58:25 +0000 UTC]
Oh, that's Mosi. I was worried for a sec Chui was following them, but I realized you were talking about Mosi.
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PerpetualTwilight21 [2019-07-30 19:32:38 +0000 UTC]
Well, Africa, if you lived in my reality where animals can't talk, think, and reason like humans you'd be right, for the most part. Though individual animals' personalities vary and there are exceptions to every rule, in general yes, leopards do live alone, mate only for reproduction, and adult males kill cubs they are reasonably sure they didn't father. Territories are fought over and only the fittest, smartest, and most resourceful survive.
But Africa, sweetheart, you don't live in my reality. Yours is a reality where animals possess human-like cognitive skills, intelligence, and the ability to reason. Different species can talk to and understand each other as well as their own kind. In your reality there is absolutely no reason why things have to stay as they are, and you have just seen living proof of this in the form of Faida and her hyenas, who take in and help other predator species and who went out of their way to help you when you were stuck up in that tree. By your logic they should have eaten your cubs and left you as you were, because that's what hyenas do and no alternatives exist ( even when you have just seen with your own eyes that alternatives DO, in fact exist ).
I'm still rooting for you, girl, but good god you are stubborn. It is time to get over your pride and your butthurt and concentrate on making a better life for yourself and your cubs.
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zaporah [2019-07-30 19:06:28 +0000 UTC]
Who is their father I wonder
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Freeda-WickWild [2019-07-29 06:11:54 +0000 UTC]
So I guess Mosi will be terrible then too
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Nachtlichtje [2019-07-28 10:25:24 +0000 UTC]
Edit: Nvm, I read too far into it and missed what Africa said about only meeting the Cuba father, once.
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XSamuraiEdgeX [2019-07-27 18:45:19 +0000 UTC]
it seems i failed to notice how the other cup (forgot his name) almost slipped off of Africa's back XD
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Iovena [2019-07-24 21:01:51 +0000 UTC]
Funny how Africa just become like Giza.
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BeastMaster09 In reply to Iovena [2019-07-26 21:08:43 +0000 UTC]
Like mother, like daughter I guess.
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fvnkymutt In reply to Iovena [2019-07-25 12:40:40 +0000 UTC]
That’s what I was thinking
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Pepper-Lynx [2019-07-24 16:59:15 +0000 UTC]
Aww, maybe he can be the one to break the cycle, and stay with his mate when he grows up
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Sanluris In reply to Pepper-Lynx [2019-10-09 21:56:40 +0000 UTC]
If so, it could be more beneficial. They'd have more success rate at raising more cubs to adulthood. One could hunt while the other watched the kids.
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madnessfoxywolf [2019-07-24 16:37:26 +0000 UTC]
why lashing out at cubs ?
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MauEvig [2019-07-23 17:32:57 +0000 UTC]
Honestly I think Africa's bitter about how the world works and having to admit to herself that her mom was right. She wanted to change, but I think when her mom left it broke something in her, contributing to her attitude that she has. I doubt she likes telling her cubs that's just how it is, but probably feels lost to teach them any differently than what her mom taught her, as that's all she knows. She also knows that trying to defy it in any way ends up being costly to her.
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Kauluka [2019-07-22 15:43:34 +0000 UTC]
I'm starting to dislike Africa- I despise stubborn people who refuse to change their ways despite changes being potentially for the better. And how she immediately gets angry at her children for having different opinions. And that comment to Mosi on the way out.
Her cubs are still learning about the world. They're gonna question things, that's how children learn and Africa immediately flips her lid on them. The cubs have had bad experiences with how leopards naturally live, of course they're going to question it. Africa's not explaining why the natural way is superior, she's just saying it is and expecting her kids to understand.
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Freeda-WickWild In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-29 06:15:19 +0000 UTC]
What ways could she be changing? She's just cynical because of the hurt in her life XP
When people get angry like Africa is and are being depressing, it's usually because they're holding back a lot of grief or guilt and it's the only way they can protect themselves from completely falling apart.
I dont think she's talking to her children exactly here, she's talking to her younger naive self who let herself get hurt. Sometimes people find comfort in saying "That's just how things are" with no explanation to deal with other people hurting them repeatedly. First Africa's mother, then Africa's mate, and then Chui. It's easier than to blame yourself and even easier than to forgive the people who hurt them, especially if you know no other way to make sense of a tragedy.
It wouldn't be a stretch to say that considering the anthropomorphication of the characters.
She's not being stubborn, she's just never seen any evidence to the contrary that an alternative is possible in relationships or if she once did, the hurt of her past relationships overshadowed it.
The kids are asking valid questions, but Africa's just telling them what she really believes, and why they shouldn't trouble themselves with the sadness those questions illicit. No one likes to see their kids sad, especially when there's no reason for them to be sad.
She said it herself: "things never change."
That's a facet of learned helplessness in which one expects the negative things that have happened oneself to perpetuate because believing otherwise would put them at risk to just get hurt again. Unfortunately it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in which by acting out this belief, usually it further perpetuates the result and further enforces that belief like we saw here with Africa and the Wild African Dogs.
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The-Purgatory-City In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-24 14:11:50 +0000 UTC]
Well, her mom was pretty unforgiving, and Africa is still very young. First set of cubs, and all that. If she lives a long life, she's going to have quite a few litters. Not to say she isn't being a brat, but she's only got her own upbringing as an example of how to raise leopard cubs.
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Kauluka In reply to The-Purgatory-City [2019-07-25 00:23:50 +0000 UTC]
That is true, but you can see she has doubts about that and only repeats it because that's what she was taught.
My parents both came from bad families and bad parents and they knew better than to follow their example. Africa told Mosi that when he grows up he should kill cubs that aren't his because that's how leopards really are. She chose in that moment to stick to tradition rather than teach her son to be a good person... leopard- whatever. She doesn't even believe in that and thinks it's wrong but that's still what she's teaching her cubs.
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The-Purgatory-City In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-25 01:44:03 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but I'm also saying that she doesn't know of any other way for a leopard to survive. Your parents, and my father, still had examples of how to be successful and better than their own parents. Africa literally doesn't have any examples of "good" leopards. There's a really good chance she's never even encountered another female leopard, or seen cubs that weren't her own. All she knows from her mother is that she was weak for her kindness, and that most cubs die, so why risk being weak? She wants her cubs to live, and her mother said this was the only way. She might wish it were different, but she's not willing to risk the lives of her children on that chance.
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Kauluka In reply to The-Purgatory-City [2019-07-27 03:35:37 +0000 UTC]
Nice of you to assume they had good people to learn from. They made their own way. They made tons of mistakes and other people had to pay the price for it.
I get that. I've seen it in real life. When it becomes not okay is when you start lashing out at other people, especially your kids. Mosi and Binti also just lost their home, they're confused and shaken and they have every reason to question the natural way of things since it got them into this position. Africa immediately gets angry and calls their questions "nonsense" and doesn't help them understand why she sees it that way, she just expects them to get it. Also, she made a nasty comment on her way out that may or may not be directed at Mosi, but he definitely took it that way. This is going to come to a head in the future when the cubs get older and start questioning things even more. And I can't tell if Africa would choose tradition and loyalty to her mother over her cubs.
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DevilAntRat In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-23 16:55:59 +0000 UTC]
don't worry, Chui is there to be your favorite character :3 liking the main character is for normies anyway..
Also, as humanized as she may seem.. she's still 2 years old.. and I'm pretty sure Arven doesn't forget that she is when writing her..
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Kauluka In reply to DevilAntRat [2019-07-25 00:20:18 +0000 UTC]
I despise Chui. Also that came off as super condescending.
I'm aware Africa is young and a first time mother, but that doesn't excuse how she's treating her cubs.
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PerpetualTwilight21 In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-30 19:16:27 +0000 UTC]
I'm with you. Being young and inexperienced doesn't excuse this style of parenting. I'm sure she has her reasons for being the way she is, but she isn't that likeable to me right now either. I'll start liking her again once she starts learning from her mistakes. It's why I continue reading, in fact, because it seems like she's going to learn and grow as a character from these experiences.
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DevilAntRat In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-25 11:11:18 +0000 UTC]
she's not just young and inexperienced..she's litteraly 5 years old (I was wrong about 2) remember yourself when you were 5?
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Kauluka In reply to DevilAntRat [2019-07-27 03:35:32 +0000 UTC]
Okay but here's the thing. Animals don't mature as slowly as humans do. I'm not sure exactly how similar a leopards aging patterns are to a cat, but they have a similar lifespan so to make a guess using that as a reference, she's probably around 30 years old in leopard years. She's a first time mom, so she is inexperienced in that aspect.
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DevilAntRat In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-27 12:45:59 +0000 UTC]
it only accounts for hormonal maturity and the body follows a bit ..
There is no reason to believe that an "adult" wild non-human is any more mature than one of those 12-year-old girls that put makeup and mini skirts to act adult or one of those 14 years old boys that act tough and pretend that they're not virgin anymore even tho it's an obvious lie..
It's true that we are very slow but Adult non-human animals don't magically get decades of life experience and maturity just because they have a slightly faster brain and have their hormone kick and can reproduce sooner..
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Kauluka In reply to DevilAntRat [2019-07-27 14:00:55 +0000 UTC]
W h a t. I literally said she's inexperienced. I said she's around thirty, which is still young and adults at that age are still learning. Where did you get the idea that I said she's mature?
If you wanted to compare human ages to leopard ages, then by the time Africa would be an elderly leopard, by your logic she'd only be as mentally old as a fifteen year old girl.
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DevilAntRat In reply to Kauluka [2019-07-28 00:59:18 +0000 UTC]
well; she would have had her puberty sooner so it's not really comparable year by year in terms of maturity.. but yeah a leopard that is about to die from "natural cause" is about as mature as a 25 Years old and in terms of body, not older than a 35 years old human..
Old age in nature is more akin to the end of an athletic career than to human old age..
Nature is populated only by the young..
It's just that the extreme condition for survival get really fast really hard to manage..
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Taitloo-R In reply to DevilAntRat [2019-07-24 17:40:33 +0000 UTC]
Africa is 5 years old, she chased her Mom away when she was 2. 3 years passed after that
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DevilAntRat In reply to Taitloo-R [2019-07-24 21:58:58 +0000 UTC]
yeah I remembered that after writing it but wasn't able to find my comment to edit it without an extensive research so I just let it be..
it doesn't really change much, she still has a very short experience of life..
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BlueYoukai [2019-07-21 22:14:07 +0000 UTC]
Ouch. Poor Mosi.
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ClaraCheetahWolf [2019-07-20 23:14:45 +0000 UTC]
How mean...but that's nature.
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Raptor-Rage [2019-07-19 19:43:22 +0000 UTC]
my heart hurts for all of them....Africa's facing having to behave like her mother, trying to teach her own cubs about the way of life for a leopard. she had to learn that hard lesson for herself when she ended up being forced to fight her own mother for her territory. now, she's lost that territory, and she has to try and make sure that her cubs know what they need to survive. I'm sure that she doesn't want them to get into a situation like she had been put into. she had innocent ideas as a cub, making friends with a gazelle, and staying with her mother, only to get her heart broken by what happened next
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iamSketchH [2019-07-19 19:22:35 +0000 UTC]
She could write a book: "How to insult your son casually on your way out the door."
But, what the cubs are saying isn't technically incorrect. The same is true for Africa. Both are right. Leopards are primarily solitary--especially in the wild. Yet at the same time, if raised with others, I've seen leopards also socializing with humans, dogs, other big cats, etc in captivity or rescues. I think that's why Nadira was trying to make a connection to Africa while she was still young.
But, I will say--making friends with other predators (like the hyenas, etc) is one thing, but in regard to making friendly with the gazelle and zebras--I can see that relationship being a bit more...complicated. I mean, predator's gotta eat, right?
Can't wait to see how it unfolds.
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Freeda-WickWild In reply to iamSketchH [2019-07-29 06:32:58 +0000 UTC]
Perfect. Get a publisher in here, we'll make it a best seller.
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