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KuromiAkumura [2014-09-10 20:48:06 +0000 UTC]
Germany is AWESOME~!!!
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Birvan In reply to KuromiAkumura [2014-09-10 22:10:13 +0000 UTC]
But he's a hellhound. That's not the average fire
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KuromiAkumura In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 23:00:04 +0000 UTC]
And i am a devil so i am not effected!!
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Birvan In reply to Mr-Asquith [2014-06-24 09:14:39 +0000 UTC]
He's one of the few that barely changed over time. Though I am wondering on removing his ability to speak, since dogs aren't exactly the best talkers
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Mr-Asquith In reply to Birvan [2014-06-24 15:45:01 +0000 UTC]
It would be interesting to figure out how he might communicate without words - and, I'm sorry, but when you said "dogs aren't exactly the best talkers", all I could think of was a YouTube video 'If Humans Acted Like Dogs', in which spoken vocabulary was limited to things like "Hey! Hey! Hey you! Hey!"
Being serious again, it would be something to consider, whether Germany will be able to speak or not; we tend to take the spoken (and in places, written) word for granted as a form of communication, though I think most adults would be lost if we had to communicate in a new, unfamiliar way - or worse - had to invent a new way of communicating. By no means am I advising against limiting/redirecting Germany's ability to communicate, but it would have implications on the story and would need to be navigated accordingly so he can still participate fully - not that he really needs words to get things done.
One option that's easy to point out, but definitely not the only option available is for Germany to try and communicate the way any dog would, by making noise to get people's attention, pointing/trying to lead people to something, and typical canine body language such as raised hackles and pulled back lips for aggression, tail held low or between the legs (possibly ears flattened) as fear, tail wagging or general calmness for satisfaction. There's a whole lot more to it, but those would be some of the basics.
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Birvan In reply to Mr-Asquith [2014-06-25 13:16:02 +0000 UTC]
Lol, what I meant was the ability to pronounce actual words. They're a lot better at using body language (and scent) to express themselves
I used to have dogs and I could easily tell what they wanted just by looking at the glances and body postures. I even had one where we understood each other so well, I rarely needed to give her verbal commands
But yes, Germany wasn't born a dog so anything outside of facial expressions and basic body postures is going to be counter intuitive to him. And even those might be quite challenging, since he's nowhere nearly as "physically expressive" as Italy for example and the others might easily mistake a smile for a snarl
He'll probably end up using tail wags and ear positions quite a lot, but they'll all be instinctive reactions. Stopping them halfway (if he notices) should be fairly easy, but if he tries to use them on purpose he'll most likely end up with awkward results
But as for how he'd react to the realization that he can no longer form words, yeah I'm pretty sure he'd freak out. Especially considering how he loves to follow rules and procedures and he doesn't have any mental map on what he should do under those circumstances. But on the other hand he's a dog owner and I'm pretty sure he has lots of dog handling manuals, so he'll probably default to those in trying to make himself understood
His biggest problem however is the others not being as "dog literate" and completely misinterpret what he's trying to tell them. He'll probably grow frustrated and shout a bark, only to find out he'll breath out fire in the process. That will likely cause him to keep his mouth shut as often as possible and force himself to use overly exaggerated body language instead. I can even imagine him trying to stand on 2 legs to try to make motions with his arms, only to fail completely (besides gravity issues, dogs don't have the same arm rotation range as we do)
Either way I think it would be really interesting to add that to the story, especially because it forces Germany to act so out of character
But Italy might also prove to be an unexpected aid. Considering the relationship hellhounds have with fairies through the Wild Hunt, and the abilities fairies have to communicate with animals in general, he could become Germany's interpreter. Not in the ability to translate word for word, but telling his intentions rather accurately
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Birvan In reply to Mr-Asquith [2014-06-26 09:14:02 +0000 UTC]
I used to have it around his neck in the original design but everyone who transformed didn't gain any clothing or specific objects, so if he'd have one on him when he arrived and remember to fetch it and carry it around in his mouth at all times (or at least until someone remembered to put it on a string around his neck)
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Mr-Asquith In reply to Birvan [2014-06-27 02:55:03 +0000 UTC]
That could definitely work. The only question is where would the string come from...
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Mr-Asquith In reply to Birvan [2014-06-27 15:47:16 +0000 UTC]
This is true.
Ditto that last statement; and it's definitely not certain that Germany would carry it with him; I guess it might depend somewhat on the time frame the story takes place in; are we presuming it's modern day, or earlier? I only ask because while I can imagine it feeling the sting of that reputation shortly after WWII, it also probably faded to some degree afterwards, and if Germany's particularly attached to it, I could see him holding onto it, either publicly or in secret. I don't really know anything about the culture behind the iron cross, much less whether Germany would really want to keep it, but that would be a possible arrangement.
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Mr-Asquith In reply to Birvan [2014-06-28 18:00:49 +0000 UTC]
Definitely a fair explanation, and there are a lot of outdated and misinformed associations made with many countries, but trying to convince company otherwise is literally a headache, that I certainly agree with. It's possible that Italy with his nature as a fairy could recognize Germany on some level - that might help if we can't find a "prop" to help identify Germany. We'll keep exploring options of course, but I'm just throwing ideas out there.
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Birvan In reply to Mr-Asquith [2014-06-29 14:15:09 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that's the most likely way for him to be recognized. Especially considering the close relationships he and Italy are considered to have
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Mr-Asquith In reply to Birvan [2014-06-29 16:49:12 +0000 UTC]
Okay, totally useless reply coming up: ... yeah~ they do seem to enjoy a close-knit friendship *squiggles happily*
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Birvan In reply to Mr-Asquith [2014-06-29 16:58:56 +0000 UTC]
Lol, yeah XD
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Birvan In reply to TinyFeatherpants [2014-06-23 18:38:56 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, hellhounds are said to be larger than average dogs, sometimes as big as calves
I figured it would be funny XD
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TinyFeatherpants In reply to Birvan [2014-06-23 18:53:06 +0000 UTC]
I bet germany is happier about this than england.. XD
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TinyFeatherpants In reply to Birvan [2014-06-23 19:10:13 +0000 UTC]
Oh.. I just hope he doesnt burn his fur. D:
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Birvan In reply to TinyFeatherpants [2014-06-23 19:19:12 +0000 UTC]
Hellhounds are fire creatures, it can't harm them. Actually he can set his fur on fire on purpose, to intimidate others
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