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Description Review of the season premiere My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Season 7 - Episodes 1/2: "Celestial Advice / All Bottled Up"

Final score: D

Previous review (Season 6, Episodes 25/26):Β 


These episodes are all rated in the context of the show - therefore, if I give an episode a score, it is in relation to how it compares to the standard set by the show itself and not external factors.

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Comments: 163

SPB2015 [2018-04-25 20:30:02 +0000 UTC]

I'll admit, "Celestial Advice" was only elevated above medicore status by the Celestia bits and even then they were so brief they were almost an afterthought. And "All Bottled Up" feels like a first draft turned into an episode.

I have a theory (though it's just that, a theory, there's nothing to suggest it) that "Celestial Advice" was meant to be the big two parter premiere for Season 7, but instead Hasbro and DHX decided on two back to back stand alone episodes. So Lewis and Songco salvaged what they could of their original vision, then hastily wrote "All Bottled Up" to turn in for the deadline.

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1992andbeyond [2017-10-04 22:40:16 +0000 UTC]

Is it just me or does Celestial Advice feel like it has another ending they didn't stick with but neglected to change the middle to suit the new ending?

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SPB2015 In reply to 1992andbeyond [2018-04-25 20:28:03 +0000 UTC]

It feels like the ending was meant to be a lot sooner in the episode, like say the first act?

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ProRaindancer [2017-06-21 18:41:11 +0000 UTC]

Fans with any self respect should hope better for season seven, and from what I've seen of the season, that's exactly what we've been getting. Recently I've watched The Perfect Pear, which I have to say might be the best thing from this season.

For those who dislike Starlight, yes, these episodes probably don't mean much. Celestial Advice isn't too special of an episode looking back on it, but it's harmless and the worldbuilding is appreciated. Most Celestia fans will just eat it up though in a biased fashion, much how I as a Trixie fan ate up All Bottled Up. As a Starlight and Trixie fan (primarily as friends, not as a ship), I enjoyed that episode nicely.

It's different to start off the season with two regular episodes that don't serve as some premiere, but maybe we just don't need any more two parters from this show. I enjoyed the season six finale but I think between season five's finale and season six's premiere back-to-back, it's much better off to just not do them anymore for a while.

The season is a marginal improvement over season six, the absolute scum of the show reigning with a heap of mediocrity. I'm not sure if it's new writers or better editing or what, but so far I haven't hated a single episode. Even the Discord episode didn't get me angry, as it's him actually spending twenty minutes trying to do something nice for somebody.

I'm not sure if you recognize me but I deleted my old account and only just got back to this place, so it'll be nice to comment occasionally.
Oh yeah, Equestria Girls still sucks though. It's beyond repair.

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Supercoco142 [2017-05-10 00:19:55 +0000 UTC]

I can't wait 'till you review the rest of season 7! (I ADORE your reviews)

I think you will get a good trashing out of All Bottled up and Parental Glidance.

about celestial advice, it was rather boring and celestia didn't get THAT much of development (but still kind good, but it was rushed)
The main problem I had with this episode is that they gave MLP a RATINGS TRAP.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTPFjD… Remember this ad trying to hype up for something great!?
TURNS OUT IT WAS JUST TWILLIGHT'S DELUSIONS HURR DuRR

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OtakuNintendoNerd [2017-04-25 07:59:27 +0000 UTC]

Okay here are mine

Celestial Advice: A+ (Incredibly Awesome)

All Bottled Up: D- (Averagely Meh)

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spd243 [2017-04-24 22:49:51 +0000 UTC]

I would give both these episodes a B or B+.

Celestial's Advice: What I love about this episode is the quality time between Celestia and Twilight, but more so Celestia being a little more of a main focus (would love to see more episodes on her in general). I love the face that despite everyone seeing her as a regal princess that must be firm and assertive, she also has flaws no one tends to think about. Everyone tends to think she is this flawless regal pony, but she's not--everyone forgets she does joke around, show a more emotional side when she's faced with a tough decision, bickers with her sister, and even reacts a little to hasty to a situation; usually things you normally wouldn't expect a princess like her to do. I think it's more of forgetfulness on everyone else's part.

Bottled Up: This episode actually made me confused on why everyone else was confused. I seen lots of commentaries where everyone was wondering why Trixie was acting in a "jerk-ish" mood, but the thing is, she isn't one, she always had that "ego-eccentric" personality regardless of who she's around or friends with. People act a certain way because it's how they are, you can't change them, but you can inform them. With Starlight, informing her on how she felt on Trixie's behavior won't necessarily change her, but will make her a little more self aware of the things she says and does around her. Plus, I love the fact that Trixie is learning some magic!

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ProSonicIncorporated [2017-04-24 18:21:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, I found S7E1 to be basically a mirror of the season 5 finale, which was possibly intentional, but I rather enjoyed it, aside from the lack of logic being followed in any of it. However, it will likely be remembered for a gif of Celestia laughing and the line "There's no wrong way to fantasize" than anything because nothing really happens.
The part about Starlight graduating was the funniest point for me though. "Congrats Starlight! You've learned how to not use magic to enslave people in 5 episodes! You've graduated! Also the actual thing that happened when Twilight was at that point was she beat Discord with her friends after the others were tricked into being unable to stop him and they won awards for it. After which more letters were sent for 2 years and nothing really changed until then. Starlight's "leaving home" point was when she moved to Ponyville in the first place. I wish the writers would all take a few days to binge watch the series together again so they stop with this foolishness that's been going on for a while now.


The second episode was a pointless filler episode that's basically the same lesson she always learns about not using magic to force her problems solved, and honestly it felt more like an episode 17 than a premiere episode.
Also the song in episode 2 is literally a joke on how the M6 haven't done anything noteworthy in the episode so they have no context to sing about. I hope Daniel rolled his eyes while writing it as much as I did hearing it.

I'm glad there are episode grades I agree with. Episode 2 definitely brought the first one's mark down a bit here though.

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ABrightSide [2017-04-24 16:24:39 +0000 UTC]

So if I enjoyed the episodes, that means I have no self respect? That's kinda harsh.

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Enkidu6 In reply to ABrightSide [2017-06-27 11:55:12 +0000 UTC]

"fans with any sense of self-respect should hope for better from the rest of the season"

Could be reworded as; "If you have a sense of self-respect, then I advise you to hope for better."
The implication is: by hoping for better, you protect your self-respect.
Furthermore implies: if you're content with this quality, you damage your self-respect.

So, no he's not implying you have no self-respect. But if you're content with being tortured, you are clearly gonna lose respect for yourself. If you go on eating poop, one day it'll hit you "holy shit, this is where I've come to!" and you won't respect yourself anymore.

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ABrightSide In reply to Enkidu6 [2017-06-27 17:44:40 +0000 UTC]

It's just an MLP episode of questionable quality. I don't base my self-worth on what MLP episodes I like. That would be ridiculous.

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Enkidu6 In reply to ABrightSide [2017-07-03 10:26:49 +0000 UTC]

Oh, sure it's not going to have a big impact. We're talking super subtle here. That's often the fact with psychology; every day our beliefs are being changed slightly. Sometimes they get firmer, sometimes they get more positive. So many things influence our beliefs at a subtle level, we don't have time to pay these changes any mind. But if you make a lot of bad decisions over a long time, the psychological changes could add up. The neural link between the self and respect weakening even by the slightest amount is going to mean something if you do it regularly for years.

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ABrightSide In reply to Enkidu6 [2017-07-03 13:04:34 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, isn't that kind of thinking a little paranoid? I could never form an opinion if I though about what you said right now.

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ToxicHolyGrenade In reply to ABrightSide [2017-06-12 18:37:23 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you, harsh and wrong.

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ABrightSide In reply to ToxicHolyGrenade [2017-06-13 07:15:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. From what I remember, the rule is: "You can like it, just don't be blind to the flaws."

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ToxicHolyGrenade In reply to ABrightSide [2017-06-13 12:57:32 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.

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Redfields [2017-04-24 09:22:05 +0000 UTC]

Where is your review for Flurry Heart episode?

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AJWolven00 [2017-04-24 07:56:04 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, these episodes were alright for the most part. Just wish that the whole nervous reactions from Twilight would be toned down significantly or they be placed in more appropriate executions that don't highlight it as repetitive.

As for the second one, um, no, Starlight. That's your fault for trusting somepony with an arrogant attitude like that (and her apology doesn't excuse it unfortunately). And personally, Trixie's attitude just infuriated me and made me want to slam my head against the wall a multitude of times (it's that bad.)

This is just my two cents on it of course. May sound like I don't like it, but it's actually pretty decent. Definitely do like the more peaceful start rather than the usual routine climactic beginnings.

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Geobukseon [2017-04-23 16:26:01 +0000 UTC]

I could accept this ruling for 'All Bottled Up', but for 'Celestial Advice'? Β I know it's a typical teacher/student episode, but that one was endearing as hell.

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EGarciaSoto01 [2017-04-22 04:49:06 +0000 UTC]

Not watching anymore MLP cause I've now with CB characters

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Jayiscoo [2017-04-19 02:13:51 +0000 UTC]

I'd give the episode a D- both episodes were meh/bad in my opinion.

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Super-Mantis [2017-04-18 18:02:13 +0000 UTC]

The season premiere wasn't that bad, but it could've been better.Β  I still enjoyed it so I would give it a C+!

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RZGmon200 [2017-04-18 04:28:18 +0000 UTC]

I do not say that it is more likely, it's just a theory, but I think that by the end of the season Starlight will be ready to embark on her path, since from Season 3, every season premiere has a breakthrough at the end of the season. Like:

-Season 3: Star Swirl's Spell book at the end of The crystal empire, the key of Twilight last lesson before becomin princess
-Season 4: the Chest of the Tree of Harmonny
-Season 5: Starlight Glimmer
-Season 6: Thorax at the end of The Crystallin-the return of Chrysalis

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SpaceTimeDream [2017-04-17 19:34:47 +0000 UTC]

You really don't like Starlight do you. Sure she feels like a clone of Twilight but at this point it is rather meh. I rather have more "dumb fun and as cute as ever" episodes than villains. But, what I really wish for (that should have been done ever they introduced the map) was more adventure outside Ponyville... like real adventure not hang out in Manehattan and come up with a friendship problem out of your ass plot adventureΒ 

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Itsnouse [2017-04-17 12:18:45 +0000 UTC]

You are an incredibly pretentious reviewer with almost no respect for anyone that watches the show or reads your reviews. You focus way too much on the negative and not enough on the positive. Remember, it's a kids show, you don't overanalyse things this much. Also your attitude stinks. Why should I care about the opinion of a guy who comes across as such a jackass? You need to find something better to do with your time.

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ARThropodJay In reply to Itsnouse [2017-04-18 02:40:41 +0000 UTC]

cuddlepug is nice, you're the jackass here

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SpokenMind93 In reply to Itsnouse [2017-04-17 22:44:42 +0000 UTC]

He never said he was a reviewer xD He just writes reviews but he just does them for amusement.
You do realize that an opinion is just that: an opinion, something someone is thinking for their own.

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Yanie-The-Brown-Pone In reply to Itsnouse [2017-04-17 20:54:48 +0000 UTC]

I laugh because these reviews are written like this on purpose XD He actually loves the show and is a fan XD

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Milki-Moon In reply to Itsnouse [2017-04-17 19:31:47 +0000 UTC]

Cuddlepug is a nice person. He did his best review he could. You may think it's bad while others say it's good, but don't start saying mean stuff about the person because of that.

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Redfields In reply to Itsnouse [2017-04-17 16:30:47 +0000 UTC]

What he wrote is true, though. Also you are upset over someones opinion. Go read positive reviews if you're that bothered.

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Itsnouse In reply to Redfields [2017-04-17 18:59:54 +0000 UTC]

I'm not upset over an opinion, I'm upset because this guy's a terrible reviewer. Trust me, I won't be reading any more.

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trashiian In reply to Itsnouse [2017-04-17 20:33:15 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I think you may need to find something better to do with your time. Instead of calling someone a jackass and getting all butthurt over an opinion, why not do something productive?Β 

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ShoJoe [2017-04-17 08:57:19 +0000 UTC]

'Twilight Sparkle is doing what we're all thinking in β€œCelestial Advice”, the first episode of the seventh season of Friendship is Magic – coming up with ways to get rid of Starlight Glimmer, her annoying magic assistant, by sending her away to a distant land. Fans have been plotting various ways in which the show could ditch Starlight Glimmer since the sixth season concluded and it's nice to know that the showrunners have acknowledged this.'

Pug I seriously call bullshit on that. There are those people that can't stand Starlight, which I'm guessing you fall in that category of people with the vibes I'm getting, and there are those people that actually looked forward to seeing more of Glimmer.

' There's a lot of effort being made to make people like the character, who seems to be hanging around in Ponyville like a bad smell.'

At this point if you can't enjoy her, then I'll guess you'll just have to cherish the moments when you don't see her, cause there's going to be a lot more of her coming down the pooper I can bet on that.Β 

"As all the villains in Friendship is Magic have been reformed, there's no villain left to fight in the show. Hence, these two episodes are not dramatic or suspenseful – there is no adversary to defeat or challenge to overcome."

I'd take a chill there. Remember 2 episodes! Season hasn't even started yet, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of time for someone's wishlist and desire for the Β season to be fulfilled to come true, so sit tight. Also, not every single episode's got to be some daring episode where adventure is at every corner. Plus "there's no villain left to fight in the show"- WTF is keeping them from creating new villains, like if memory serves me right...Starlight???

" They play it safe, and come across as largely boring and ineffectual. There is little indication of where the season may go from here or justification for why people should still be watching."Β 

Dude, I'm just going to say that's an extremely unpopular viewpoint from what I've witnessed a good majority of other people have been saying about these two episodes. I myself have watched them over a few times already. And let's see- not knowing where the season may go from- is that inherently a bad thing? Arguably (once again if my facts are straight) if we're/you're judging how the season's going to go by the first two episodes of a season, Return of Harmony didn't do much in that department either. Discord shows up, he causes chaos, he breaks up the mane 6, they get back together, they fire their rainbow beam, turn it back to stone, and it ends Stars Wars-ish. If I want to go on further, any real semblance of where'd a season be going existed in Season 4, 5, and 6- them trying to figure out what the contents of the box from the Tree of Harmony were, the return of Starlight and how'd she enact her revenge on the mane 6 for getting in her way, and Twilight becoming the teacher towards Starlight & teaching her the right path and the right way, and not the way that could cause a relapse.Β 


" It's dumb fun and as cute as ever, but fans with any sense of self-respect should hope for better from the rest of the season. "

Somepony tell me Β I'm not the only one that thinks that sounds like its coming from an incredibly picky person. You're thoughts are no joke the exact stark opposite to a good majority of other's views I've seen- a lot of other views. I haven't heard anyone really complain about these two episodes, albeit some nitpicks here and there but not a whole lot of disgust. Then I happen to run into you.


Yeah, came across your thing via chance- can't really say I'm a fan.

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AJWolven00 In reply to ShoJoe [2017-04-24 07:48:00 +0000 UTC]

Personally, I'll give him credit that he is a bit more "detailed" unlike most reviewers from what I've seen. But yeah for the most part, I do agree with you on his review and the fact he's somehow speaking for THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE (like seriously, wtf?).

So if there is one word of advice I would give to Pug, it's simply this:

NEVER, and I mean NEVER, generalize the whole audience of the show AT ALL IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. It has never worked, and it most likely won't work again in your favorΒ because every fan watching the show has differing opinions, positive or negative.

That is probably the biggest flaw I see in his review so far. I don't mind bias, but I do mind it when it starts to try and speak for the audience asΒ a whole itself. Hopefully, mine was clear enough to understand.

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tigertulip [2017-04-17 03:13:12 +0000 UTC]

Seriously dude? You're certainly not speaking for the whole audience when you talk about Starlight being annoying and the viewers wanting her gone. You just sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. Starlight has potential and just needs proper character build.Β 

"As all the villains in Friendship is Magic have been reformed..." are you joking? There's plenty of villains and what stops the show from developing and creating new villains?? What you think the show is at max characters and development??????

This season is off to a decent start and is instantly WAY better than that shit show we got from season 6.

I almost never agree with your reviews. Not only do I disagree with the rating but the fact that your reviews are pretty biased.Β 

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ShoJoe In reply to tigertulip [2017-04-17 09:03:07 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. Its off to a really good start, and hope the trend sticks. And I get ya too. Starlight has the potential, they just need to build her up properly.

"are you joking? There's plenty of villains and what stops the show from developing and creating new villains??"

Yeah, its not like they could go and just make new villains for the movie that's coming up..........oh wait. I'm pretty sure they are, so why not in the show as well?

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sin-pai [2017-04-17 02:30:22 +0000 UTC]

THIS IS MAGICAL

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Cuddlepug In reply to sin-pai [2017-04-19 12:54:38 +0000 UTC]

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sin-pai In reply to Cuddlepug [2017-04-19 23:27:04 +0000 UTC]

OH MY GOD WHAT THE!


HOT!

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OutlawQuadrant [2017-04-16 20:56:36 +0000 UTC]

For an episode named Celestial Advice, Celestia doesn't actually do much until the last portion of the episode. Frankly, the backstory should have been the main story all along instead of these visions that had a sense of randomness. The worst offense is that in the end, Glimmer stays anyway. We basically went through all that for nothing. This was the worst season opener for me, I'm afraid.

All Bottled Up was a little better. There was something relatable with Trixie pushing Glimmer's buttons and trying to hold in that frustration. That said, I thought they were forcing Trixie to be even more annoying than usual just to make the episode work. The B plot was filler quality with the only redeeming quality being the song costing them the world record (and even that could've had better execution).

If those two episodes are indicative of what to expect for Season 7, that's quite troubling.Β 

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KagomeHanami [2017-04-16 20:49:31 +0000 UTC]

I can definitely agree. I don't really watch MLP anymore, but my fiance was curious and so we both watched the premiere episodes and they didn't really strike me as entertaining.Β 

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Spyro1997 [2017-04-16 19:32:32 +0000 UTC]

Gotta agree. Was underwhelmed.

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OceanRailroader [2017-04-16 17:44:34 +0000 UTC]

I would give the two episodes a C

I'm glad Celestia showed up and the scenes of her added more personality to her. I did like how Trixie was a bit of a spoiled brat and how Starlight hated her.

I'm however a little tried of Twilight being this over nervous school girl who hyper controls everything though.

The dark magic inside of Starlight to me would leave open a interesting plot idea that Starlight could possibly relapse into being a villain or having villainous ideas or might be temped into falling back into a villain. I think that would make a very interesting storyline were Twilight sends Star light away and due to some other evil force out there that Starlight has trouble resisting.

Β Such as I did think about the idea were the main six gets taken out of commission by a evil force and the same evil force then starts messing with Star light to make her turn back into a cult leader.

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TheDisneyCrtiic [2017-04-16 16:26:09 +0000 UTC]

I'd give Celestial advice a B+ IMO

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SPB2015 [2017-04-16 15:05:33 +0000 UTC]

I did like the first episode, even if it feels like "Celestial Advice" was false advertising and should've been expanded. "All Bottled Up" though was held way back by Trixie's behavior. I just can't stand these egotistical know nothing characters that refuse to learn their lesson and keep acting like they deserve to be rewarded and praised. Trixie's becoming a character not unlike what you'd see on modern Family Guy, most of the time she's a jerk, and then supposesdly every once in a while we're supposed to see her as a good character.

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Cidncidoeo [2017-04-16 06:01:57 +0000 UTC]

This is why when there's a sign of newly additional character such as 'thorax, starlight, etc.'Β 
it is like the mlp creator have forgetten their sense of good storytelling instead of using back the shitarse children morals of 'friendship'

no fuck that.

I'd rather have the return of a main villain 'chrysalis' or 'tirek' to at least kill off one 'non-existing' character.
otherwise GET RID OF STARLIGHT, TRIXIE, or better least one of the mane 6.

We can't have the same overused characters with the same plot device.Β 
Is it time that we set a petition to have ONE or more FORMER villains to return their vengence.

I know the name titled: I'm the Spirit of Anarchy - the sovereign of choas, the masters of rulers, the eradicator of all baby. also known as 'Tirek most infamous assassin babe'

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RebelLunarstone [2017-04-16 05:55:25 +0000 UTC]

Sadly yesterday the episode was a sesason 6 repeat and I have a hunch that if I wake up to see today's episode, it will be another season 6 repeat even though the schedule says it's supposed to be Celestial Advice.

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meiyeezhu [2017-04-16 04:45:00 +0000 UTC]

I still wished Trixie had DIED from that long-distant nutbusting!!

And f*** you Twiggles for ruining that record breaking moment!!

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8-BitBrony [2017-04-16 04:27:43 +0000 UTC]

I thought the first episode was just okay, but I enjoyed the second one a little more now that Trixie got some development in 'No Second Prances'. If Starlight is good for anything, it's giving us excuses to see more Trixie :'3

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BlackBlood100 [2017-04-16 02:07:19 +0000 UTC]

For me I feel that the Season 7 Opener's are more of the B+ A- range for me. The different change of pace for these instead of constant action and adventure like past seasons was different yes but I found it more enjoyable. It was wonderful to see Celestia in the first episode interact with Twilight and discovering the reason why she was sent away. It was an interesting and great idea to try. As for Starlight I feel she's gotten better as a character in these two episodes. She's grown on me as I like her a lot as a protagonist instead of an antagonist (to me she was the worst villain out of the 7 seasons). I like how she tried to solve her own problems in episode 2 but instead her solution backfired. Like she may be a graduate but she still has much to learn still. And the fact she wasn't ready to move to another location is pretty interesting. Most students after high school or college are not ready yet to move somewhere as they might feel uncomfortable or afraid. So I find it interesting that the writers took this kind of approach with Starlight.Β 

Overall this was a refreshing and great season opening.

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