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Cypselurus — The Frigate and the Boatswain

Published: 2014-11-14 15:47:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 618; Favourites: 38; Downloads: 4
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Description Magnificent Frigatebird (Fregata magnificens) and Red-billed Tropicbird (Phaethon aethereus) 

Phew! First sketch in a long, long time...

'Botswain bird' being another name for the Tropicbird, in case anyone was curious~ 
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Cypselurus In reply to ??? [2015-09-20 14:14:01 +0000 UTC]

Indeed! A dogfight in the air between two of the most agile seabirds in that area (and overall, really...I suppose Albatross is better at long distance, but little holds a candle to the frigatebird's agility in the air). 

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-09-20 19:16:58 +0000 UTC]

Probably because these two are built to grab prey mid-flight.

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fish-birb [2014-12-08 11:50:10 +0000 UTC]

Too many realism in one drawing...

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Cypselurus In reply to fish-birb [2014-12-09 08:04:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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fish-birb In reply to Cypselurus [2014-12-09 08:58:58 +0000 UTC]

No problem...

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DelitescentCalm [2014-12-01 02:01:22 +0000 UTC]

I adore birds with tails like that.. This is such a wonderful sketch!

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Cypselurus In reply to DelitescentCalm [2014-12-01 07:56:01 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Cuthillius [2014-11-17 16:58:59 +0000 UTC]

Lovely job as always.

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Cypselurus In reply to Cuthillius [2014-11-18 08:00:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Leaubellon [2014-11-16 11:30:04 +0000 UTC]

Their feathers are all ruffled and shattered! ^^

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Cypselurus In reply to Leaubellon [2014-11-16 11:31:34 +0000 UTC]

Shattered?

Good to see you back btw! Last I saw you was what...just before summer break began? xD

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Leaubellon In reply to Cypselurus [2014-11-16 11:43:37 +0000 UTC]

I meant beaten up ^^

Actually the first thing that popped up in my mind on seing your drawing was those stuffed specimens in museums, sometimes they're displayed in flight action and I always wanted to steal one and throw it by the window to see how it would fly.

Yes probably. I haven't been much online for a while, once in a while real life is worth spending time in.

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Cypselurus In reply to Leaubellon [2014-11-17 08:42:56 +0000 UTC]

Ahh I see ^^

I've actually had that impulse too sometimes. Especially those big eagle specimens which are almost always stuffed to have their wings stretched to their full lengths..

Real life..? 

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Leaubellon In reply to Cypselurus [2014-11-17 14:28:04 +0000 UTC]

That must be some impressive sight. Here at the Paris Museum, for some strange reason it's almost exclusively the seabirds that are displayed in flight although their wing patterns are nothing special. /:

I know right? Although with all your travels I'd have thought you actually have some good arguments to enjoy real life. I mean, your life list is not limited to rock pigeon and house sparrow. And dead pigeon (yeah they count as a different species via car-collision mutation )

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Cypselurus In reply to Leaubellon [2014-11-17 14:39:50 +0000 UTC]

Seabirds? Well, it honestly depends on what seabird. At the local museum, all waterfowl are placed on the ground (ducks and such, even though some have pretty spectacular speculums), whilst its usually larger birds like Eagles/Falcons/Owls that are up in the air. I remember an Albatross back in Toronto though- that was one seabird that was pretty impressive when being displayed in that fashion  

I enjoy real life when I'm not doing school, usually I still find things to enjoy every now and then even on school-weeks, but I usually just enjoy real life so much more when I'm not restricted timewise and I don't have to finish AP World essays/English monologues/French packets. Haha no, it most certainly isn't  

You jest, of course- I've been to Paris, and apart from those two (or three), they've also got Mallard.  

Regarding car collisions though- half of my total Siberian Weasel sightings were roadkill- the poor little chaps are just not designed to dodge cars, it seems..

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Leaubellon In reply to Cypselurus [2014-11-17 15:22:54 +0000 UTC]

Mostly boring gulls, I think the idea was to re-create a Normandy coast sighting. I remember now they also have some kestrels and barn owls in flight but they are placed in a window between floors that can only be seen briefly when one is inside a moving elevator (talk about a dumb idea!).

What are AP World and French packets? 

Yep, we have some Mallards here, mostly of the roasted variety endemic to the Chinatown quarter haha.

Aren't weasels the stuff fur coats are made of? I suddenly have a funny idea.

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Cypselurus In reply to Leaubellon [2014-11-30 02:22:09 +0000 UTC]

Oh, we actually have a similar exhibit here in Shanghai, except its not all that well maintained, and all the birds have fallen over ._. Still good variety though, and pretty accurate generally- I remember Mandarin Ducks, Black-winged Stilts, Common Cuckoos, and Hooded Cranes. All local birds common in the marshes at certain types of year. Why would they make something like that? Seems pretty pointless of the viewing opportunities are that limited...

Worksheets for those respective classes. Really not that hard, but they take a while to finish..

Haha we have those here too I wonder if they'll split the species though, due to geographic difference? The roasted variety here tastes radically different from the ones I've eaten back in Canada..

Yep funny idea..? 

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Leaubellon In reply to Cypselurus [2014-12-07 20:28:59 +0000 UTC]

Let's say that if Siberian Weasels occured here, I would be spending a lot of time in my car to fund my next holiday. ^^

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Cypselurus In reply to Leaubellon [2014-12-14 03:22:53 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see Well, you gotta be at least somewhat proficient in washing the furs, then, seeing as they're always scurrying about in dusty places and get their pelts all matted..  

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Cypselurus In reply to Leaubellon [2014-11-17 14:39:31 +0000 UTC]

Seabirds? Well, it honestly depends on what seabird. At the local museum, all waterfowl are placed on the ground (ducks and such, even though some have pretty spectacular speculums), whilst its usually larger birds like Eagles/Falcons/Owls that are up in the air. I remember an Albatross back in Toronto though- that was one seabird that was pretty impressive when being displayed in that fashion  

I enjoy real life when I'm not doing school, usually I still find things to enjoy every now and then even on school-weeks, but I usually just enjoy real life so much more when I'm not restricted timewise and I don't have to finish AP World essays/English monologues/French packets. Haha no, it most certainly isn't  

You jest, of course- I've been to Paris, and apart from those two (or three), they've also got Mallard.  

Regarding car collisions though- half of my total Siberian Weasel sightings were roadkill- the poor little chaps are just not designed to dodge cars, it seems..

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Starkrestwing [2014-11-16 10:45:26 +0000 UTC]

Lovely detail! And I was just watching a documentry with these two the other day

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Cypselurus In reply to Starkrestwing [2014-11-16 11:00:25 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! ^^

Was it BBC's Life series by any chance? I actually got the inspiration for this from an amazing sequence of an aerial chase between a Frigate and a Tropicbird from that series..

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-11-25 04:43:04 +0000 UTC]

I really enjoyed that scene. Specifically the aerial maneuvers, particularly that first vertical, twisting dive by the frigate.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-11-27 02:59:27 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I loved at scene! Absolutely stunning, gave me chills watching it. Simply splendid. 

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-11-27 04:44:10 +0000 UTC]

If we had planes like that...

BTW, Attenborough is back, with a series entirely on predators.

The Hunt. Look it up. Not all the episodes have aired though.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-01 09:57:55 +0000 UTC]

Haha maybe one day..  


(Edit: I almost asked "Is it the one called 'The Hunt'?" My eyes completely hopped over your next sentence..)


I think I saw a part of it on Youtube the other day, I'll look into it once exams are over. What do you think of it so far? (or have you not seen it yet either) 

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-01 16:32:09 +0000 UTC]

So far, it's superb. I prefer to watch the stalk and chase compared to the kill, and that't the point; it's a game of strategy, not strength.

Also, the epic cinematography. And for once, everyone finds it hard not to cheer the hunters on.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-03 15:08:47 +0000 UTC]

I'm watching it right now, I am finding it absolutely stunning. The hunting process is beautifully filmed for many different species, and I'm downloading all the episodes I can find right now. The motion capture on a lot of those sequences were absolutely stunning- the sustained wild dog chase looked magnificent as each dog dropped into view just behind the wildebeest they were chasing. 


Definitely.  

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-03 16:33:55 +0000 UTC]

The only beef with it is that there are too many mammals and few fish.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-04 08:21:33 +0000 UTC]

True...but the biomes they focused on so far are probably quite mammal-dominated (people will expect polar bears in the Polar episode, for example, and not, say, Greenland Sharks). The ocean episode was beautiful though, and I have high hopes for the coastal episode. 

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-04 13:31:32 +0000 UTC]

I haven't seen any episodes past the forest episode (I cannot find them...)

Considering Greenland sharks are major predators of pinnipeds, they really should have been in the Arctic episode.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-04 15:31:35 +0000 UTC]

If you are in an area where pirating off the internet is not *too* strictly regulated, you can find them on some of the torrent sites. There's an ocean one that was great, would you like me to list some of the species or would you like to find out yourself?


Loved the Portia sequence in forest episode, btw.


I actually would've liked to see them, to be honest, but too by honest, hopes were not that high..

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-04 16:33:58 +0000 UTC]

That Portia sequence counts as one of the highlights of the entire show.

Yes a list of the marine species (I only know about the flying fish sequence and the blue whale) please.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-04 16:55:41 +0000 UTC]

Definitely. I'd known about Portia for a while, but had never seen it on any documentary, much less one that presented it so beautifully. 


Sure thing! *- haven't seen this species in documentaries before. 

1. Blue Whale (+Krill)

2. Frigatebird sp. 

3. Mahi-Mahi (+Flyingfish)*

4. Sargassumfish* 

5. Spinner Dolphin (+Lanternfish)

6. Viperfish

7. Various deep-sea jellies

8. Deep-sea squid (+Prawn)

9. Various coral reef species 

10. Lionfish

11. Scalloped Hammerhead and Silky Sharks 

12. Striped Bonito and Golden Trevally 

13. Black-browed Albatross 

14. Pelagic Red Crabs*

15. Striped Marlin 

16. Sea Lion sp. 

17. Tuna sp. (Very striking patterning, resembles albacore somewhat)

18. Shearwater sp.

19. Common Dolphin

20. Bryde's whale 


Now that I look back at it, really not that many fish either here... :/ 

 

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-04 20:58:14 +0000 UTC]

At least they hit all three groups that are dominant pelagic predators.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-05 02:18:25 +0000 UTC]

True. The Dolphinfish was a real treat to see, though somewhat disappointed that there was no Mako...personally still waiting for a Mako hunting sequence.  

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-05 13:04:45 +0000 UTC]

There' s a mako hunting sequence on YouTube where someone dragged a fish behind a boat and had the shark chase it.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-06 06:29:29 +0000 UTC]

I've seen two..is it the short one with no slowing-down, or the longer one with slow-mo sequences..?

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-06 06:35:23 +0000 UTC]

No slow-mo.

Of course, the shark won.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-07 10:04:35 +0000 UTC]

Course.  


I'm downloading coast episode right now. From the trailer, it appears to be quite mammal-heavy...hoping some birds, fish, or crustaceans will get a look in... 

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-07 13:25:06 +0000 UTC]

The good old peregrine falcon will appear, as well as a bizarre amphibious octopus. But that's about it.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-07 16:04:37 +0000 UTC]

I've compiled a list, if you'd like? There was an unexpected marine mammal, the expected 'orca-in-patagonia' scene, and yes, those two.

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-07 16:29:58 +0000 UTC]

Yes, again a list would be nice.

What's the unexpected marine mammal? Bottlenose?

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-07 16:44:09 +0000 UTC]

Sure, here it is:


1. Bottlenose Dolphin (+Great Egret, Laughing Gulls)

2. Abdopus aculeatus octopus. (+Crab sp.) 

3. Soldier Crabs (+Australian Ibis, Gull-billed Terns, Sacred Kingfishers) 

4. Sand Bubbler Crab 

5. Long-tailed (Crab-eating) Macaques (+Sea Snails, Rock Oysters, Rock and Ghost Crabs)

6. Marine Otter* 

6a. Humboldt+Magellanic Penguins, Albatross sp- These are unnamed, just saw them out in certain shots. 

7. Grey Wolf, Brown Bear, Harbour Seal (+Salmon), Gull sp., Northwestern Crow

8. Red Knots, Eurasian Oystercatcher, Common Redshank  and Peregrine Falcon

9. Patagonian Sea Lion (+Orca), Dolphin Gull

10. Capelin, Humpback Whales, Black-legged Kittiwake, European Herring Gull, Red Fox, Atlantic Cod. 


The Bottlenose is almost expected in the 'new' series/documentaries...its a fascinating behaviour, admittedly, and I suppose they want as many people as possible to know. The unexpected mammal is the Marine Otter, a South American species I've never seen in any documentary before. 

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-07 20:24:30 +0000 UTC]

.....and absolutely no fish.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-08 00:03:03 +0000 UTC]

There's Salmon  

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-08 00:48:34 +0000 UTC]

I mean fish featuring as the protagonist predators.

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-08 01:02:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I know. And unfortunately, no, it doesn't seem so..that's really only in the ocean episode, I guess. Which fish predators would you have been expecting for this episode?

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acepredator In reply to Cypselurus [2015-12-08 02:41:18 +0000 UTC]

I'd expect things like sawfish, barracuda, some coastal shark species, tarpon, etc. And honestly, no mantis shrimp?

And I still don't get why they tried to squeeze three very different ecosystems into the same marine episode. In coral reefs the problem is intense competition. In open seas it's lack of prey. In the deep sea it's lack of prey combined by darkness and pressure. Since the point is to show the challenges facing predators in each ecosystem, who combine three ecosystems with three different challenges into one?

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Cypselurus In reply to acepredator [2015-12-08 14:01:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I was actually kinda hoping for Tarpon, and since Tarpon can be found in the same area as the dolphins, I honestly don't think it would've been that hard to get some Tarpon in. Sawfish could've bene interesting, sharks appear to have been quite extensively featured in the other aquatic episode...not sure if most people can tell the difference, really. Mantis shrimp, had it been featured, I would've expected in the other episode actually. Was hoping for pistol shrimp, but apparently not. 


That's true, I see what you're saying, and I agree with that. I'm honestly not sure myself, but I'm assuming the logic behind that is that most people would want to see just one-two ocean episodes, and so they mixed in a lot of different things in that one. The deep-sea sequence was really quite unimpressive, nothing really interesting there; the coral reef sequence seemed kinda meh as well, to be honest. I honestly think they should've emphasised pelagics more, as the former two are emphasised pretty often, but pelagic species (though hard to film) kinda lose out to them a bit. 

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