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Published: 2010-09-28 01:52:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 17597; Favourites: 78; Downloads: 81
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Marina comes to Silver's bare back seeing the scars of his past before and after he became a cyborg, including a gun shot wound. He looks at her over his shoulder getting a glimpse of her eyes starting to moisten up.The scars on his back were a pain, but I really think they turned out okay. Not great, but okay. I mean, at least they turned out better than they did in the older picture of his back. I feel good about the coloring, but the lighting is so so. I could've done a little better I guess.
John Silver © Disney
Marina Seadrift © DisneyFan-01
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Why not? They are story line.
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Despite the ugly comments by others, i think this is great. i think all your work is great and Marina is H.O.T hot!
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i'm sure this would be exactly what Silver's back looks like. Glen Keane would be so proud 
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It's mediocre at best. The "highlights" are wonky and amateurish and even with what little shading you did, there seems to be virtually no depth at all to this picture. It's rather flat and bland. Try blending the highlights into her hair, rather then just have them look as though they're pieces of hay laying on her hair. And those 'scars' don't look like scars at all. Again, try blending. His anatomy is awkward too. Even with him trying to look over his mechanical shoulder, it shouldn't be that much lower then his other one. You should take some art classes, especially ones on anatomy. And why don't you try working from your own style instead of copying someone else's.
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love it!
I was watching thsi movie a few moments ago and was cool imagine a sequel with Marina
well done
is cool you keep studing of this scene
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Your character continues to perplex me. She's supposed to be naive and shy around men but here she is groping one in the middle of the night. I hate to bring up the virgin thing again but at this point in time I'm guessing since she hasn't seen his whole body that means they haven't consummated their 'love?'....yeah I'll call it love and ignore that pic where he's threatening her.
Anyway, my point is this, upon seeing his scars why does she proceed to steal the scene from 'I,Robot' and examine her rival up until this point, in the dark? It seems like a terrible plot device. Like their so different before this happens and after she sees it she totally understands him and the hardships of the real world outside palace life. Honestly, I think a love/hate relationship would work better for them than a kissy goo goo romantic one would. She's a pampered palace brat, he's a gruff cook/pirate - I see them driving each other crazy like Sinbad and Marina or Lana and Archer, it comes out really funny see: [link] - only being brought together by their love of adventure or a common job.
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And no she hasn't seen his whole body before and no they haven't consummated their relationship.... yet. The whole relationship starts out slow where they have a few beefs here and their since she's a spoiled palace brat and hates hard labor. Later on the two become friends, but Marina doesn't realize that he has great feelings for her. It's not long when Marina can't stop thinking of him and wants to be near him during the time when she's lost and by herself. After that, she finds out that she's in love with him. Soon or later the two become a kissing couple. They enjoy every moment of being around each other and stuff like that.
Much later in the story, since Silver is out on night watch most of the time, he offers Marina his stateroom since she hates sleeping in a hammock (and of course surrounded by a bunch of her friends who snore in a very loud pattern) when he's out.
In the series of pics of her seeing his full body, she comes in his stateroom no knowing that he is there because he wasn't expecting her to come in too soon. For the first time she sees him and touches his scars. Both of them feel their hearts reaching the peak. And of course they... you know.
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So it is a plot device. I see.
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I want you to answer this: When did I say she's shy around men?
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Numerous times. It was part of her character, it came from living a sheltered life as a lady in waiting in the palace. But I guess you redesigned her since...earlier this year I think is that last time you said that about the character. So she's not shy around men anymore? Not shy around giant alien men that threaten her?
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Yeah, that was back then. Her new development, she's not shy around men.
She's not shy around Silver. If one threatens her, she can be afraid.
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If you say so. Could've been an interesting plot line if she was still shy around men - y'know why is Silver the one to get her to come out of her shell. But oh well.
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Is that not one of her big character flaws?
If not, what are her flaws now?
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That was long ago.
Now she's spoiled, bratty, hates hard labor, a fashion fiend, picky, and a bit naive.
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How is being a fashion fiend a flaw? I could see it being a flaw if she were wasteful with money and spending too much of it on clothes or even being vain, but I don't quite see how being a fashion fiend is a flaw. It's a character trait, for sure.
Maybe she's not smart with money and spends it too much on things she doesn't need?
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She's crazy about fashion that she buys all that she can since she's filthy rich. Kinda think of it as London Tipton. I mean, Marina brings on board a dozen bags of luggage full of her clothes. Even in my latest chapter I'm working on, when she finds that they're heading for Nevada, the first thing she's excited about it the fashion shops of Las Vegas.
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That seems more like a trait than a flaw. And an interesting trait. You can definitely use it to your advantage, I think.
Other fashion-conscious characters you should look at:
* Veronica Lodge from the Archie comics
* Kimmie from the Touch Series by Laurie Faria Stolarz (her books are YA and very good. You might enjoy them)
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Ahh, okay.
It would be really nice to see these sheltered qualities come out in her more frequently.
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I've always asked myself, if Marina is sheltered she should be a little airheaded or gullible. I don't see her as a sheltered person in these stories o.o
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She's not, she's just an annoying spoilt brat. If she were at least a little airheaded, she might be likable, but she's not. She still screams perfect to me.
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She just screams: WHATEVAH WHATEVAH I DO WHAT I WANT!
There are likable spoiled brats like Angelica Pickles and Veruca Salt but they are more villainous than heroic.
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Not to be rude, but if she hates hard labor, how did she learn to competently wield a sword? That takes effort, and I'd think you'd have to have the right attitude to stick with it, which Marina clearly does not. I think you should give her more apparent flaws and write a consistent backstory for her, because I still can't figure out why she's so respected by a king and queen. Who is Lord Seadrift, anyway?
P.S. Sorry to say this again, but I really think you should write/draw some other characters to help you break away from Marina and probably make her a better character at the same time. Writing character interaction is really fun.
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Hard labor. I mean swabbing, sweeping, washing, scrubbing, scrapping, rigging, all of the hard work any sailor/spacer has to do. After all, she never had to do those things growing up in a palace.
Her back story comes around eventually like of her and her mother before she died.
High Lord Chancellor Darren Seadrift is her father.
I'm thinking of drawing some random characters. I just need to think of a few designs.
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I would think that swinging a sword till your hands have blisters on them would be considered "hard labor." She's a chancellor's daughter, then? Thank you for clarifying that. As for random characters, I think that if Marina is supposed to be naive, you should give her a foil with a "hard-nosed realist" type of character. Just don't go out of your way to make them seem cruel or inherently wrong for disagreeing with her.
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Marina never had any major blisters from the sword because she hasn't been in a real fight until now. She just had easy training through most of her life. Besides, she hates hard labor chores.
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Is her father still alive? If he is, I would think he would have qualms about his daughter joining a group of pirates. Why is she allowed to leave the castle at that point, anyway? If she only had easy training, I highly doubt that Mickey would place the burden of saving the world on her shoulders. It just doesn't seem plausible.
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Yes, Lord Darren Seadrift is alive.
He doesn't know that she is on this mission, but once he finds out, he won't be happy about it. Of course, Marina has to show him that she's not a child but an adult.
And Mickey put her as a part of the mission because Donald and Goofy are going to need all the help they can get since Mickey has to go on his own mission else where. I mean, Donald and Goofy are great fighters against the Nightmares, but even during a fight, Donald is very short tempered with Goofy who as we all know is very clumsy. Between the two of them, Mickey always kept the peace. While he's gone, Donald and Goofy need an extra helping hand with them to fight the Nightmares... and of course keep a bit of peace between them, even if there's always an argument about to happen between Marina and Donald.
And Mickey, didn't place saving the worlds on her shoulders. She may be the main character of the story, but she's not the one who will be saving the Universe from the Nightmares. She's just one who helps. She's not a powerful being. Just a regular dependent woman with a sword that can shoot elemental attacks. He just wants her to go forth on the mission for it's an adventure she's long for her whole life and like I said, Donald and Goofy need all the help they can get to fight.
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My issue with this is that you've already done this scene six times and you've already done Marina far more than that. I'm sure everyone would like to see something new by now. Drawing Marina over and over again also may not be healthy for your art skills in the long run. You need to branch out, design and draw some new OCs that aren't Disney-related, and maybe add them to the story, otherwise, your skill at drawing anyone who's not Marina will decline. Worse yet, everyone you draw may begin to look like Marina. It's just not healthy to be so focused on one character, even if they are the main, in writing or art. You need to exercise your creative side and break away from Marina.
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I'd like to see some men who aren't Jim Hawkins or John Silver, personally, some other gals (i.e. The Punk Rock Girl), and maybe people of all ages (elderly folk, children, young adults, middle-aged folks, ect).
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I've been there - suggested that. She doesn't 'have the time' to think up original stories...that sounds mean but it's what she told me.
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Oh...oh wow. That's not even... WHAT.
In the time it took me to type this, I've though up at least 4 possible character ideas, and she can't even think up ONE? Holy. Shit.
How did this woman last in art school?
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DestyPanthera found the original comment I made on the subject: [link]
And yes, it does seem very...I don't know. Even people who don't draw their own stuff and use recolors and base dolls come up with something original every now and then.
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Not necessarily. She's a sailor scout/Disney princess/Treasure Planet pirate mashup. Admittedly, it must have taken SOME thought to pair all of those together, but still...
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Yeah. She could take the 'traveling to different worlds' thing and make it a sci-fi romance thriller - but it's been done a lot. Or something like a princess that has to hide amongst sailors because her life is in danger, turns out she falls for a pirate passing as a sailor or something like that - and that was just off the top of my head. It's not heard but it takes work.
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This makes me sad. 
I don't think she understands the concept of revision.
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Dude, I hear ya. My brother's a musician who's in classes/practicing constantly and if he can come up with an original piece of music, anybody can. Granted, it takes him months to get it to where he feels okay presenting it before a crowd, and even then he understands it needs work.
And the novel I'm writing now? I first came up with the idea when I was fourteen, started writing it when I was twenty, and, six years later, am adding the finishing touches. A lot of the "work" was done while day dreaming at my other job or taking the train to school. :/ I don't mean to be an ass, yo, but I don't buy the excuse of there being "no time to come up with creative ideas".
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I have no idea what makes her think she doesn't have time for original stuff. Unless she's an airplane pilot or a train conductor she'll have time to day dream during work about something not Disney based. Like her little goth girl drawing - that had to come from somewhere. And some of the replies she gives me regarding plots are somewhat imaginative thinking.
But then again she is who she is. I came up with my first original idea for a comic when I was fifteen, some people probably just take a little longer
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Same here. If she's got time enough to reply to people here on the internet, she's got time to work over some original work. Or even make her fanfic more original. And yeah, I totally agree with you on the late-bloomer front. It might just be a matter of time before she outgrows Marina and decides to branch out into newer ventures.
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One can only hope. I was making fan characters for all my favorite shows for years when it finally hit me: "I could make my own show/comic! With my own characters, in their own universe!" The possibilities are endless really - it keeps you from writing that horrible shoebox character that has to fit in the fandom. She'll either out grow her or become too frustrated with all the things she has to do to get her to work.
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I'm a bit confused why you draw this once scene over... and over... and over... and over... and over...
That being said, this is better than some of your previous efforts. Needs a lot of work on skin and scar texture, but at least marina doesn't have a huge hair butt on the back of her head.
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Gah, I know, the scars were a pain to do even with reference and even a skin/scar tutorial. But I know this is MUCH better than the last pic I did of his back.
Over and over? It's kinda just like a comic. . . only without the little frames.
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