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I don't believe in deities of any kind. Why? Because I like proof before I decide to follow something blindly, especially if it's a powerful man in the sky who has nothing better to do than troll us. Once I have proof, concrete proof, than I'll think about it.Related content
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IIIII sort of believe in Azathoth. Β
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Well, if a miracle ever happened, then I guess you could say there is a deity? I don't really know what I would say to that though...
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They say there's no proof that god doesn't exist. But there's also no proof that he does. So i wont believe in a god kept extremely vague and cryptic for the convenience of not having your mistical magical magic man disproven. But i won't laugh if you do believe. Or even care.
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for me, Deities are now equivalent to fairy tails, LITERALLY.
but if people do, sure, I'll respect it BUT when they rub it down on other people when its not basically their business, naw man, thats wrong
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i believe in jesus because he existed died on the cross and rose again
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And what proof do you have of that, exactly?
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Faith and seeing him in dreams
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Wait you see me in your dreams? Pervert! >:U
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No, I stated that people.see Jesus in dreams
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Guess who? Well the Christians who made the bible renamed me Jesus. So yes you said you saw me little human.
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Your not Jesus..Β
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Yes I am kiddo. You are no one to tell me who I am human.
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If your Jesus where do I live?
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Nimrod, just cause I'm a deity, which is in short a Nibirian, doesn't mean I know where the fuck you live. You humans are fucking retarded expected too much out of us, you're laughable. You're such insensitive pricks to think you can control us. You have no right to tell me who I am you little ant. I'm 500,000 years kid, I ain't gonna be nice to everyone, especially when you humans treat me like shit for no reason half the fucking time. How would you feel if I said you're not justinjamal?
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Your claiming that your Jesus christ. Β the one who knows everybody before they were born Β God who.wouldn't insult nobody and would hurt people by calling them idiot's or curse at them. And God wouldn't say that... Β about me... Β you too are human and we all have our mistakes.... and justin is my first name and jamal is my middle name.
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I'm not human you stupid cunt, how fucking dare you try to tell me what the fuck I am asshole?!!! There are plenty of other species out there in the universe you selfish brat!! People change in 500,000 years. You do not control my actions you little swine. I am fucking Jesus, I don't care if you don't like who I turned out to be. Guess what? People aren't always what you fucking expect them to me. You don't fucking know me, you are no one to tell me who I am and how I should act! People don't stay the same after thousands of years. You think I wanna save humans who insult and bash me right in my face and then claim I 'love them?!! Fuck no! I'll only save who Enki, my father tells me too. You are not on the list. You pretty much just kissed your ticket to the light side of the underworld goodbye with that little shitty post of yours.
Have fun with your bad luck now.
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If you were a deity shouldn't you love?
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I do actually, since I'm with Marduk, my older brother. Deity is just a name for Nibirian, a alien species.
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I've seen Pokemon and Adventure Time characters in dreams, doesn't mean they're real.
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belief in God is an intution no matter what, Β I use this as evidence
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That's not very good evidence, how can you immediately understand something when you have so little information about it. And please do not say your bible is evidence, I had to hear stories from that thing in school all the time and that's all it is, a collection of stories told by people many many years ago because they didn't know how to explain what they were seeing. They couldn't explain it, so they thought it was some invisible god in the sky.
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How.do you know if julius caesar existed?
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I don't know much about Caesar but I'm guessing there are remains of his body, or atleast there were. He had family, he's historically documented. I realize arguing with a religious fanatic such as yourself is pointless, so I think I'll end this here. While I do not agree with your beliefs, you are free to believe in whatever nonsense you choose, no matter how rediculous it sounds. I went to private catholic school all my life and I just don't understand why you people believe in this stuff, in an invisible man who lives in the clouds and created humans out of dirt and animals out of thin air. You believe heaven is out there even though people have been to space and have seen no such place hovering above Earth. You believe your god is all loving even though there's countless tails or rape, torture, murder, sickness and other things in both the bible and in real life. The church also teaches that your 'all loving god' hates gays and will send them to hell for their 'sins'. It's all complete bullshit, but again, you are free to believe in whatever you want.
Have a nice life.
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Genetic fallacy, now who says that God hates gays?
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Not quite sure what 'genetic fallacy' means or how it's relevant, but many people say god hates gays. The church and many of it's followers.
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Do you believe what they say?Β
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The church? Of course not, there's nothing wrong with being gay and it's certainly no sin, if it were I'd be going to hell for having a female fiance.
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God wont send you to hell, our sins will, homosexuality is a sin in itself but, however I'm not saying for you to agree with this nor will i bash on you,I Β can still be friends with gay people and not support it, and those who condemn people and say their going to hell are in condemnation their selves, its not a big sin sin is just sin,
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And how exactly is it a sin to be with the one you love? We can't control who we fall in love with, no matter how hard you try, and how much you fake it, you cannot force yourself to love someone completely, nor can you force yourself to stop loving someone completely.
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, the same as any sin
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That doesn't answer the question
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A.study has shown that there are no genes to make you gay, but also there is nothing that says you choose it either, I just go by what God said and no he doesn't hate you,Β
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Wow. Β Were you there? Β Damn, you're old.
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i seen him. were you there when you saw macroevolution?
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I believe in plenty of deities, but I do agree with your "I need proof" bit.
I have my personal proof... Whether or not someone else does is up to their own experience. :3
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What proof do you need? What will it take? Will you recognize it when you get it?
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For me personally, bring me unbiased, testable and reputable scientific proof of any deity.
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People keep asking for this bullshit, and I keep asking them what would make solid evidence. Seeing as it's a trick question, they tend to fail every time. I don't expect your answer to fall anything short of "what's good enough for me" rather than reaching for "complete verification for everyone".
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"People keep asking for this bullshit, and I keep asking them what would make solid evidence. " The very least I consider solid evidence, is physical proof. Something anyone and everyone can pick up and test. I'm not the one that needs proof, the world itself needs proof.
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You fail to see the trick question of it. Again, what would constitute evidence for God? 
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"Again, what would constitute evidence for God?" Physical evidence that anyone can touch.
"What do you know of God that would help you recognize him if he showed up?" There is no physical description, so if someone claimed to be God, they would need to prove it. Something simple for God, such as bringing someone long dead to life.
"What feature that couldn't be attributed to something else is there?" Resurrection, killing off most of the planet in an instant, then bringing them to life should be simple for him.
"Why should he reveal himself knowing that everything he could possibly do here in this reality, can be reproduced by some form of advanced technology or higher evolved being?" If he wants all of his children to know for certain he is real, he can do whatever it takes to prove it to them. I know of no technology that can create a universe, so we can ask him to create a universe made of diapers and chicken wings.
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"Again, what would constitute evidence for God?" Physical evidence that anyone can touch.
Being able to touch stuff proves someone/thing is God? We can't touch black holes yet we believe they exist. We can't touch colors either. Or numbers.
There is no physical description, so if someone claimed to be God, they would need to prove it. Something simple for God, such as bringing someone long dead to life.
Making something "live again" is possible through advanced technology. All you'd be doing is restarting the metabolic processes and repairing everything so that they work. This is NOT evidence for a God.
Resurrection, killing off most of the planet in an instant, then bringing them to life should be simple for him.
So if a single alien showed up on his souped up powerful ship and pulled this stunt off, he'd be God, eh?
If he wants all of his children to know for certain he is real, he can do whatever it takes to prove it to them.
Sounds like the role of the lowly to me. He doesn't 'need' to do anything for his creations other than what he's already done (create all this).
I know of no technology that can create a universe, so we can ask him to create a universe made of diapers and chicken wings.
Depends on your definition of universe. As long as there as an environment for things to exist in, you can call it a universe. We HUMANS have made universes within computers, either video games or complex programs to simulate the big bang.
So yeah, you're back at square one bro. The evidence you're asking for can and always will be something that can be attributed to something else. It also seems selfish too.
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"Being able to touch stuff proves someone/thing is God? We can't touch black holes yet we believe they exist. We can't touch colors either. Or numbers. " Touche.
"Making something "live again" is possible through advanced technology. All you'd be doing is restarting the metabolic processes and repairing everything so that they work. This is NOT evidence for a God." And yet, we don't have the technology to make the dead living again, much less one long dead as I said.
"So if a single alien showed up on his souped up powerful ship and pulled this stunt off, he'd be God, eh?" I would call it God because he actually pulled it off. If the real God did it, I would call them God.
"Sounds like the role of the lowly to me. He doesn't 'need' to do anything for his creations other than what he's already done (create all this). " There is no proof he created anything, or even exists.
"Depends on your definition of universe."
universe [ΛjuΛnΙͺΛvΙΛs]
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1. (Astronomy) Astronomy the aggregate of all existing matter, energy, and space
"So yeah, you're back at square one bro. The evidence you're asking for can and always will be something that can be attributed to something else. It also seems selfish too." How so? The advanced technology you promote, we don't even have. That alien defense was also pitiful, since there isn't even proof of them either.
Selfish? Ok, everyone is selfish. Your point?
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And yet, we don't have the technology to make the dead living again, much less one long dead as I said.
Atomically reassembling someone from all the particles that made them up in such a fashion that they can function again is just as much a possibility with highly advanced technology as the other method I mentioned. So what we don't have it now, it's feasible.
I would call it God because he actually pulled it off.
And if another alien showed up, killed him, and then brought him back to life, what then?
If the real God did it, I would call them God.
Wow, aren't you easy to please.
There is no proof he created anything, or even exists.
There's the framework here for existence to exist in the first place. Big Bang? So basically something was there, and what exactly would that something exist on for it to have exploded into all this?
universe [ΛjuΛnΙͺΛvΙΛs]
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1. (Astronomy) Astronomy the aggregate of all existing matter, energy, and space
That's how we define our universe. But sure, let's have God make another one, I'm pretty sure at the SMALL SCALE THAT WE WITNESS FROM, we'll be able to see this new universe in it's entirety, without being able to attribute any particular detail to something else "oh, you're just using holographics to trick us!"
How so? The advanced technology you promote, we don't even have. That alien defense was also pitiful, since there isn't even proof of them either.
No, what's pitiful is your inability to comprehend. You wouldn't have even engaged in this 'argument' if you knew what I truly meant when I told you that asking for what would prove God's existence to you was a trick question. I don't care if the alien argument sounds corny, fishy, or far fetched, I'm not trying to impress you, and that's not the issue, OR the point. The point is that there's ALWAYS a spot to input skeptibility. The further technology progresses, the more wierd, abnormal, and unbelievable feats can be accomplished. You're on a subject about a Deity, and expect every piece of logic (ESPECIALLY concerning said Deity's abilities) to be down to Earth and acceptable to you? What a joke.
Selfish? Ok, everyone is selfish. Your point?
Being more selfish than normal doesn't excuse you. Perhaps said Deity would show himself to you if you didn't think you deserved it.
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"Atomically reassembling someone from all the particles that made them up in such a fashion that they can function again is just as much a possibility with highly advanced technology as the other method I mentioned. So what we don't have it now, it's feasible. " Feasible, maybe. But you can't promote technology we not only don't have, but likely won't have.
"And if another alien showed up, killed him, and then brought him back to life, what then?" Then I would call them God as well. Hell, I might even consider it the beginning of a pantheon.
"Wow, aren't you easy to please." Why yes I am.
"There's the framework here for existence to exist in the first place. Big Bang? So basically something was there, and what exactly would that something exist on for it to have exploded into all this?" It's a theory for one, two it has holes in it. Speculation isn't proof of anything.
"That's how we define our universe. But sure, let's have God make another one, I'm pretty sure at the SMALL SCALE THAT WE WITNESS FROM, we'll be able to see this new universe in it's entirety, without being able to attribute any particular detail to something else "oh, you're just using holographics to trick us!" Well for one, as a supposed all powerful deity, he should be able to bring us to his plane of reality so we can see the new universe from his perspective. If you want to think holographics that can envelop the planet, then I suggest you direct me to any technology that can.
"No, what's pitiful is your inability to comprehend. You wouldn't have even engaged in this 'argument' if you knew what I truly meant when I told you that asking for what would prove God's existence to you was a trick question. " Forgive me for not understanding intent online, rather difficult.
"I don't care if the alien argument sounds corny, fishy, or far fetched, I'm not trying to impress you, and that's not the issue, OR the point. The point is that there's ALWAYS a spot to input skeptibility." Then why not state that to begin with?
"You're on a subject about a Deity, and expect every piece of logic (ESPECIALLY concerning said Deity's abilities) to be down to Earth and acceptable to you? What a joke." My stance is, if a deity is real and has certain or unlimited powers, then they should be able to prove it.
"Being more selfish than normal doesn't excuse you. " How exactly am I being selfish? By asking for proof?
"Perhaps said Deity would show himself to you if you didn't think you deserved it." If he does, he does. I would find it funny though.
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Feasible, maybe. But you can't promote technology we not only don't have, but likely won't have.
When were you born, and what year did you stop updating yourself in science and technology? We've already assembled microscopic CARS, and can one day get them to actually function. We know of and have created nanomachines. We HAVE the technology, now we need to develop it.
Forgive me for not understanding intent online, rather difficult.
If it was sarcasm that you misread, I could understand this. But for this, there's no excuse.
Then I would call them God as well. Hell, I might even consider it the beginning of a pantheon.
What a joke. You know we ourselves would be considered Gods by the likes of prehistoric cavemen, right? So if anyone shows up with technology or abilities far greater than what you've already seen and are used to, they are Gods to you. Very sound logic. Forget that we have the ability to rationalize nowadays that an advance form of science/technology that we don't understand is as good as magic/supernatural to us.
Then why not state that to begin with?
It's not my fault your intuition is broke.
How exactly am I being selfish? By asking for proof?
Pretty much. Consider someone doubting your abilities when there's more than enough around that you could intuitively come to the conclusion that you are. It's one of the contradicting facets of atheism. If you're going to believe only what you see and can perceive, what's stopping you from doubting that there's an outter space, since you've never been up there, other countries if you've never been to them, and every single other thing that you yourself haven't experienced. And even then, can you say what you saw was what you really saw? What stops you from falling into crippling skepticism if there's no surefire 100% way to prove something, having only to deal with a good enough, which is an opinion, and we all know opinions don't = fact, nor can they be acceptable to everyone else as a whole? What method of determining what is good enough to be believable can be used by everyone, no if ands or buts?
If he does, he does. I would find it funny though.
Let me guess, because it would seem petty of him to ignore a snobby fuck and only acknowledge him when he shows a little humbleness?
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how do you believe the universe was engendered?
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