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Published: 2013-07-13 21:35:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 7216; Favourites: 365; Downloads: 2
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If people are so goddamn stubborn and won't allow a woman to get an abortion, then they shouldn't allow the man to back out and run away after he gets her pregnant.Related content
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Yes it goes both ways.
You decide to do it and a baby appears, both the man and woman are responsible for the child.
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It's not our choice to let the man back out, it's his. So why don't you tell that to the percentage of cowards running from their problems, including those having an abortion.
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Its kinda fucked up how old men want WOMEN toΒ
never abort babies (no matter what)
heres my theory
MEN CANT HAVE BABIES
they do not know how hard it is to be a woman
WOMEN SHOULD BE ALOUD TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEIR BODY
NOT OLD WHITE MEN
just sayingΒ
this whole abortion thing is a pice of shit
i come from a very cathloic family
and if i was raped and didn't know i was pregnat till too late. I would abort
mostly cause I want my child to have a life I can provide themΒ
and NOT cause some man decided to hump me just for shits and giggles.
Sorry i normaly dont talk like thisΒ
this just pisses me off
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No no. I agree with you. It's all fucked up.
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Young girl named Lia Mills speech for stop abortion, please watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzUb6iβ¦
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I don't particularly care for the stigma that is attached to a man who leaves his partner who has an abortion though. "My body my choice." Then the woman should be strong enough to deal with whatever emotional repercussion comes afterward and accept it.
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I'm not pro life to humans
I prefer animals
Child free by choice
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I dont think abortion should be allowed unless the person or baby is at risk of dying or the person was raped.. Simple
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I think the same, and I'm agree with you
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Guess what, the man is stuck when a woman has a child, because unlike her, he doesn't have a variety of contraceptives. Women have LOADS of ways to not get pregnant. Men have condoms. Abortion is just one (and honestly, the most cruel) method of birth control. "shouldn't be allowed to back out of pregnancy"? What the fuck are you on about? If anyone's having trouble here, it's the men.
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Abortion isn't cruel
It's a choice to not wanting a baby
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Men can wear condoms, not saying bc isn't important but there is that.
If a woman needs to take antibiotics the effectiveness of the pill is reduced quite a lot.Β
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Have you ever heard of a marvelous thing called "Abstinence?"
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Abstinence is an alternative for sexual intercourse.
Abortion is an alternative for pregnancy.
(Adoption is an alternative for parenting.)
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Abstinence is about as useful as a dead tree if you get raped.
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Shall I refer you to any of the various children born out of rape? Do you think that their lives are worth something their father did?
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Have you ever heard of a marvelous thing called "Accidents happen. I want to have sex anyway, and I have taken contraceptives and had my SO use a condom, yet I am still pregnant and we are both not ready for a baby because we are short on money and the child will be unwanted for the rest of their life anyway?"
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Abstinence solves all of those problems. Also: You've had your sweets, now take your sours.
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by your logic, you shouldn't get any antivenom if you stepped outside your house and got bitten by a poisonous spider. It was your choice to step outside, and abstaining from leaving the house would've solved this problem!!!!!
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Antivenom does not kill a child. Your logic is faulty and not applicable to the situation. Please avoid fallacies of logic such as this straw man.
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a. but it is a medical procedure, like an abortion.
b. is an egg a chicken? is a seed a tree? are paints in a bottle a work of art? no. a foetus is only a child if it has effort put into creating and raising it. otherwise it's just a foetus.
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An abortion is a destructive procedure potentially fatal to the mother with the additional risk of infertility and no gains to her health. Is an abandoned infant or an orphan a human then? Or merelyΒ a useless fixture?
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an abandoned infant or an orphan has been carried into the world by its parent. that was the parent's choice.Β
"No gains to her health" should be perhaps physical health (though even then an abortion will often be safer than actually giving birth), but I sure as hell know as someone who's agender and has gender dysphoria my mental health would be fucktons better.
abortion was once a safe procedure; pro-lifers got rid of those safe procedures. :^)
"infertility" oh no. how will I, an asexual agendered person, survive with infertility. obviously i have been vanquished and i can argue no longer. woe is me.
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Safe procedures? Safe for who? The doctors? The infants dying in agony? The woman? Abortion is never safe.
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nice cherry-picking at the comment.
abortion is about as safe as a regular childbirth, if not more safe.Β
a foetus is not an infant, much in the same way a seed is not a sapling, and they do not die in agony. A, it's not even alive, and B. It has not developed pain receptors.
Also, not only women give birth to children; anyone with a uterus can give birth to a child.Β
If someone wants to go through with an abortion, most likely knowing how '''dangerous''' the procedure is, that's their choice.Β
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Very well. If it is a parent's choice to brng a child into the world, but then they neglect it and abuse it, is it truly so wrong to say the child should be put down? If we follow your logic, once the child is no longer loved, it is not a child.
Let's take the sexes out of it. If there's a child growing inside you, it's wrong to kill it.
For the sake of this argument, please define "human."
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once you go to the effort to bring the child into the world, you had best fulfill the rest of your parenthood and raise them properly.Β
To clarify; if the child is wanted while in the womb, the child should remain wanted for its 18+ years it'll spend with the parents. If the parents go to the trouble of birthing the child, only to not care about it, that is far more disgusting than simply aborting it.
Well, it's a good thing it's a foetus growing inside uteruses and not a child, isn't it?
A human is a human in much the same way a tree is a tree. A seed is not a tree. But once it's planted, and it has received enough love and nurturing to become a sapling, THEN it's a tree.
Replace 'seed' with 'foetus', 'tree' with 'human', and 'sapling' with 'baby'.Β
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Good point, though I find both disgusting equally.
Semantics do not make truth.
Hmm. That's your definition. Let's look at a few others shall we?
Anyone with the capability of growing up and becoming human.
Non-Christians.
Islamic followers of the prophet Muhammad.
Blond and blue-eyed humans. White.
If I am to accept your definition, what about these?
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between a child being discarded and uncared for whilst growing and able to know what they experience, and discarding a foetus, which has no sentience nor pain receptors whatsoever, you find both equally disgusting?Β
Semantics are the only things that you have to hold onto, since "abortion is murder" is true to people with their morals stuck up their ass.
Anyone with the capability of growing up and becoming human.
That's where you fucked up. If it has to become human, then it obviously isn't human to start with.
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Please, if you've ever seen the "Silent Scream" you know an unborn child is capable of pain.
Semantics are all you have to hold to when you define an unborn child as simply a foetus.
Please do not use such language and you did not address my point. Is it possible that you have no response to the simple argument I put forth?
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i'll use what language i fucking want.
during the 3rd trimester? yeah. a foetus is capable of feeling pain.Β
but all throughout the pregnancy, so is the parent.Β
it's painful if they carry the child and painful if they abort. i think a choice is in order, and if you think it's evil, then hooray for you. Donald Trump is evil but I don't see anyone trying to get him banned from being the President.
Tell me, do you support Black Lives Matter?
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Please cease and desist with such language as it makes me uncomfortable and is neither ladylike nor gentlemanly.
You still didn't answer my point and are now trying to distract me from the subject at hand.
I support groups that unite America.
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i am not ladylike nor gentlemanly. You can fucking get over it.
Do you support Black Lives Matter? Or are you simply pro-foetus?
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I support the fact that all lives matter equally. However, I believe that Black Lives Matter supports policies that I cannot, in good conscience, be a part of.
Odd that you would bring up African Americans. Planned Parenthood's original focus was to reduce their populations by killing the babies.
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so you'd argue that a murderer's life matters.
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I'd argue that every life matters. That taking a life is not something that should be done lightly and that it is only to be taken by the Justice system that God has placed over us. In other words, only a judge and a jury can make that decision. A murderer himself has taken a life, but that does not make his worthless.
Now that you have driven us off on a tangent, please return to the subject at hand as your red herring has only succeeded inΒ me.
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Oh. Your motivations to take rights away from women are religiously inspired.
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Of course, darling, you should do some research on your enemy before you step to them.
If it is a right of woman to kill a child, then what else will you excuse as someone's rights?Β My death? Yours? A stranger's?
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im not a woman.
a foetus' '''life''' isn't something that should be protected, neither should major criminals' lives (terrorists, serial killers, serial rapists). Not all lives matter.
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Good thing that "darling" is a endearment used for both sexes.
So, we suspend due process and condemn all people you think are major criminals based on evidence that may be faulty?
And you still did not address my point in the previous comment. You do that quite a lot. I'm beginning to think you don't know anything about the ethics of the matter and do not know how to carry on a civilized debate.
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A foetus is not a baby, not experiencing gender dysphoria and complete emotional breakdowns are more important to me than a foetus, fuck off with your ableist, transphobic, bullshit.
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