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Greetings,The best decisions in life are often those which seem utter nonsense to everybody else, but you. They usually also try to enforce their own perspective on you, depicting your future choice, falsely, a bad one, which will make your world crumble to dust. Don't listen to them, because fear guides their hand! Fear of the unknown path, which needs a leap of faith and iron will from the brave who dares to walk it, following its dream.
What kind of selfish incarnation would advise to let go of your dream? Let go of something which is a ponderous part of you, which defines your very essence?!
Follow your dream, and make your own choice, no matter where may it lead you!
Some say, that motorcycle chain damascus is not possible, because of all the gaps between the links. I was confused and full of doubts. Doubts in myself mostly, but then I tried it and finally after many failed attempts I succeeded and proved the naysayers wrong. It is very possible!
The total length is 27.5 cm, the blade is 14 cm long, 31 mm wide and 4 mm thick, forged of motorcycle chain with 5160 core.
Its handle is made of csere oak with copper accessories.
The sheath is hand sewn of thick cow hide.
It is 185 usd, paypal is ok
This one is sold, thanks for looking
More pics on my facebook profile: www.facebook.com/csizmar.szila…
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Very nice do you know where come from the Damascus steel blade ?
Nice knife.
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Thank you!
But I am not sure what do you mean here. I make these myself, therefor they come from my shop
If you refer to the name "damascus", than I also have to say yes, I know. The history of it is too long so I won't write it down here, but you can google it up easily, if you are interested.
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Thank you to answered to me , so sorry my english spoken is not very good , for finaly you explained , you forge your steel yourself its the best. Your work is great i like very much can you later show the different steps for make it like a tutorial that will be very intereting learning about the work of forging. thanks a lot.
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You are welcome
I can't really show step by step pics, sorry. When I work I don't have time to take pictures, the greedy gods only blessed me with two hands, unfortunately
But if you are interested, you can find quite helpful tutorials and tons of wip pics on the site of master demigod craftsman, and illegitimate son of Hephaistos himself, Ariel Salaverria
www.aescustomknives.com/
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Thank you very much answered to me , yes i am interested about of course , my best friend in France is an artisan and artiste like you for food and starting again make some knifes .
If you want looking too : chavassieux.fr/boutique/
He is marvelous man i hope you like.
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you're welcome
I have checked out the site, it is very nice
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Yes, you got a DD! Congratulations!!
I mean, I found you through a DD so it's not your first time, but I always appreciate it when it's a craft (might be the wrong word, hope you know what I mean though). Even more when it was harder to make, because you see how that effort worked out. And yet again even more whenever I already 'know' this person, 'cause that makes me feel kinda proud of you.
And to get to the actual topic: it is damn beautiful and the chain is giving the blade a really nice pattern. I think, I like this one even more than the damascus blades, because of the bigger plain bits in between.
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Thanks a lot!
Yes, I already had a DD a few months ago, and I didn't expect to receive another one in such short terms, thought it was a kind of white raven thing, if you know what I mean 
Btw, I can assure you, there is a lot of toil and sweat in this one
The bigger plain bits are the actual pins that hold a chain together
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Wow thanks! I haven't ever realized it till you noticed me 
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Thanks! I too like it better this way. The pattern won't fade away even with heavy use
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Curious! Here, we take motorcycle, chainsaw, bicycle and all the other -chains as something actually easier to forge-weld, when compared to the usual "sandwich" method!
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I must respectfully disagree! Forgewelding chains are the hardest of them all.
Because of all the gaps, I always end up throwing half of the billet away, because of the inclusions. Not mentioning all the preparations prior forging (making the stainless container, stuffing it perfectly with chain, etc. )
Btw, who are that "we"?
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Sorry, I didin't express myself properly! I meant that in our smithy, my fellow students had most success in the beginning with forge-welding chains, and the smithy's master tells us that chains are among the easiest to forge-weld. But to be fair, I've never forged a bike or chainsaw chain, and as I said earlier, the master tends to tell a lot of bullshit, if you excuse me. (I especially hate it when he tells the younger students half-truths, myths-confirmed-false, or even outright lies or nonsense about history and use of arms/metal items.) Altough I heard smiths from other smithies speaking about chain-billets being slightly easier to do. No idea why that would be, though.
On the other hand, I had a very brief go at a bit of bloom iron I helped smelt and it didn't go so bad, and that is also quite full of holes, inculsions and so on! Though I only hammered it into more managable shape for a while, we had limited time to do it at the reconstructed historical smithy with a waterwheel-powered trip hammer.
Though to be fair, you surprised me at the stainless container. It sounds almost as if you made something akin to canister damascus! We use no containers for chains, and especially not stainless. The guys who do it here just get a lot of chains, sometimes mixing bike/saw/bike/saw, roll them together, clamp into a vice, give 'em two welds across to hold them more or less together or use wire, then weld that on a piece of roundbar to hold onto, heat the clump of chain to a red heat, sprinkle it with borax with fine sand, heat it up proper and then at the start gently and increasingly more forcefuly hammer it together, then proceed to work it like a normal sandwich! Hammer it out, cut, fold, rinse and repeat! Altough yours looks like it wasn't folded many times, or at all? I am confused!
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Yeah, this trade is full of false myths! Some of them confused me too. Starting with the magic of borax for example
Back to the chain theme. Some parts of the chain are easy to forgeweld, because they are simple carbon steels. Others, like the pin, is hard to forgeweld, because it is a hard, highly alloyed steel. Now making a billet that stays together is easy to make, but making a billet that not just stays together but it is also without flaw, now that is hard work!
This blade wasn't folded at all! That is the hardship in it, to make a perfect billet, when you only have ONE shot at it.
Folding it, multiplies your chances to created a flawless billet, because with every fold some of the inclusions leave the billet, thus the steel purifies itself. BUT! folding and drawing and folding again and again a chain billet also elongates the chain links within, ruining the pattern, and eventually making it impossible to recognize.
Now if you can't recognize the chain links and its elements, than what is the purpose of making it from chain in the first place??
Folding a chain billet several times, produces a randomly laminated damascus in my book. It looses its specialness, if you know what I mean.
The stainless container is a must, because I have only one shot at it, as I said earlier, and the container keeps the whole stuff together initially till the pieces forgeweld together, but meantime the billet doesn't weld to the containers walls.
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Oh, yes, the myths. I mean, I, on one hand, believe - and practice, when I have the smithy for myself - that forging is a craft of spirituality to a degree, along the physical work. I like to chant songs to the steel when I forge it, pray to the gods of fire, lightning and forging when wishing for success in things I am not certain in, I treat the steel with respect and being careful and caring for it. When I do something that I do for my close ones, or I have the time and space. 'Course, that is rare. But on the other hand, all the bloody half-truths and lies! Regarding borax, I do use it when I forgeweld, since I am not yet profficient enough, I feel. Altough I do use less and less every time I forgeweld. And I do think that it helps, altough not nearly as much as "cure-all medicine" as my fellow students, or even the master, make it look. I use just a pinch, while on the forge next to me, "Goat" is dousing the billet with literal handfuls. I feel like it's eating my teeth enamell slowly. Argh. I do plan to try it without flux, with borax and with what seems to be the historical alternative - hardwood ash and fine sand. Certainly sounds a lot healthier with the added bonus that I can make it myself! Which is always a plus.
Chains. I certainly see your point. Having no folds certainly makes for a more recognisable pattern. On the other hand, I do feel that imperfections do not always take away from the beauty. They add character to the item, in my opinion, altough if they reduce the praticality greatly, then it's bad of course. But if I have one or two little inclusions in a billet for my own ends, but it holds together just fine and the core is nice and secure, what do I care? Though, of course, I try to walk the way to more perfect crafts as well!
One last question on the topic - why stainless? Because it produces less scale?
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Well, I am not really a believer or spiritual in any way. I do like the stories with ancient gods and all, but that's it. They are just stories to me. Sorry.
Yes, I don't mind a few minor flaws either if the piece is made for myself, but the case is different if I intend to sell it. People want perfection you know, although that is nonsense, since perfection does not exist at all, so I try to make it as best I can
Stainless- I already answered this one
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When I look at the grain in the blade, I see clouds and ocean waves. It's a beautiful work!..
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Thank you, I haven't thought of that
It is an interesting perspective.
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Not only did you succeed in something improbable, you made a damn good looking knife.
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Thanks for the kind words, good Sir!
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Congratulations on your success, this is absolutely beautiful...in a very manly sort of way of course.
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Of course! Manliness is highly important!
Thanks a lot
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