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Published: 2010-06-23 22:24:45 +0000 UTC; Views: 803; Favourites: 20; Downloads: 0
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Taken today at Newton Aycliffe, County Durham.60163 Tornado, hauling 4468 Mallard, support coach, and 47798 Prince William, on the approach to Newton Aycliffe station, which is about mid way between Darlington and Shildon, where they were destined.
Myself and a friend had checked out 4 different places to see where we could get decent photographs of Tornado and Mallard, and this one worked out exactly, because I could get my usual low angle shots, and he could get high angle shots from the footbridge behind me.
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with those 2, they must have reached at least 150 mph!
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a newly built engine and an engine no one wants to run, interesting duo
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I have no doubt that there are lots of people that want to run Mallard. But the biggest problem is that it wouldn't just cost a million pounds to restore, but multi-millions. Another problem is that it is owned by the NRM, and they certainly can't afford to restore her. There may also be a convenant of ownership which prohibits the restoration of her.
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Just so you know, the people who own her have the power to start a campaign to raise money. But they say that they have to replace what is left of the original machine, so they choose not to help her. I don't see that as preservation.
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In that case, they are preserving what is left of the original.
Preservation covers many aspects. I used to work at a small provincial museum dedicated to mining, and our thought on preservation was to keep everything as it was when used underground. To us, to remove all the dust and grease, and make an item all clean and shiney, didn't show how that item really looked. Some items we did clean though, so that people could handle them. The same can be said of any museum item, be it a fossilised bone, or a steam loco.
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To me, that seems as not giving it a fair live. I'm a major steam enthusiast, I build models, I buy models, I make stationary steam engines with Legos dude! And they operate!!! To me, you gotta give a loco the best life you can. Don't say her life is over because of a cracked wheel. Just fix it. To me, preservation is keeping something very old looking good and if a machine, running. Plus I hate steamers only getting cosmetic restorations. If it's not being used or run, it's not preserved. It's under ownership. It's just.....there, not doing anything, it's just.....there.
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I've been a steam fan since I was about 12, and I'm now over 60.
I would have preferred to have seen Mallard returned to operating condition, way back in the 1960s, rather than Sir Nigel Gresley being preserved, but that wasn't my choice. And if every last little nut and bolt, and body panel has to be replaced, that isn't preserving a loco, that's making a new version of it.
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That's repairing it, if you keep the frames, whistle, cab, rods, wheels it's still the real thing. Find what original and see if it need to be replaced
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Some of the brasswork, which never carried steam or water, should be salvageable, but almost all of the streamlining panels, the cab, the firebox, the boiler casing, cylinders, pistons, and the frames, would all have to be replaced. So that's not repairing it, that's building a new replica. It would probably be cheaper to start from scratch with the intention and build a replica.
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I wish I'd been there to see that! I always feel a sadness when I see Mallard sitting there cold and immoveable - it's nice to see she's capable of running, even if it's not under her own steam... Must have been nice for her to be out too (if I can attribute emotions to her...)
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After not seeing Mallard "running" for many years, it certainly was nice to see her in motion again.
The way everything had been polished to the highest standard too, made her look as if she was proud to be out in the sun again.
And many thanks for the new additions to your collection
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It's so clean and shiny it almost doesn't look real!
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I know. It's the first time I've seen Mallard with everything polished,even the brasswork in the cab was gleaming. But the really strong sunlight (it was scorching hot) also made them both look extra shiney.
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Brilliant Bob,our lass just came home from work to tell me what we missed. Such a shame that we couldnt be at Shildon today!
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Thanks Larry.
I thought you would have been at Darlington, but if you were baby-sitting, then I suppose that would be almost impossible.
I managed to get a couple of photographs at Newton Aycliffe, then we raced off to Shildon, and managed to get there just after Tornado arrived, but before they started to shuttle things around.
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Well to be honest I didn't know anything about it until Helen came home from work at night. But even if I did know, like you say I wouldn't have beena ble to do anything about it.
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Have you thought about using a lower exposure? It would make the shutter faster (though some motion blur, expecially on the wheels, does make it dynamic) and avoid such a strongly overexposed sky and ballast.
Angle-wise, it's very nice!
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Lower exposure ?
The problem was I had the shutter speed set low, for when they appeared under the bridge about 400 yards (400 metres) further down the line. Because we were all expecting them to be travelling slow, I anticipated enough time to change the settings. Instead they came round the curve, under the bridge and towards us at a much faster speed than expected, giving me no time whatsoever to change the shutter speed. Hence the burnt out sky and ballast.
Again, this one was taken lying on my back on the end ramp of the station platform. The lowest position I could find, legal one that is.
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Fantastic shot! And its nice to have a same-region engine hauling her at least, rather than a double diesel...
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They wouldn't have dared to haul Mallard with something like a Black 5, or a Merchant Navy Class. And because of it's historic significance, I suppose a diesel was ruled out in favour of steam.
Thanks for adding this to your favourites
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I like that! They'd never dare!
Of course, anything but Eastern Region would never do. However I may have made an exception for diesel if it was say, a Deltic. The successor to the A3s/A4s and all that... must be BR green though!
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Not even a Deltic would be fitting, because they weren't originally built for the ECML, but sent to us I suppose almost second hand.
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They weren't? I thought they were...ah well, my mistake!
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Sorry, my mistake, I was thinking of DP2, which was originally tested on the WCML. tested
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Wasn't that the 'Baby deltic'? If thats the case then the name could be the cause of the confusion...
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No, the Baby Deltic was something quite different.
My confusion arose from the fact that I'd been discussing DP2 with someone else recently. Plus the fact that DP2 did have a Deltic body, but a different engine.
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Ah right, got it now! I do need to read up more on earlier diesels...modern ones I've no interest in...
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