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someone1fy [2018-06-20 03:15:06 +0000 UTC]
Semorians? Who are they? Can you explain it to me?
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four229 [2018-03-28 14:19:11 +0000 UTC]
How can Australia possibly have 124 million inhabitants? That seems like an awful lot.
other than that, it's a really good map though.
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fildu [2018-03-10 05:25:32 +0000 UTC]
Apart from the appalling aspect of this fantasy if it were reality you have completely ignored the pre-habitation of the entire continent by the original peoples - did your invaders kill them all off?
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grisador In reply to fildu [2018-08-26 12:01:49 +0000 UTC]
[[ Anangu ]] are original habitats; so most likely no; actually do read the map; is OTL Australia that different ?! At least natives've their own state in this one tbh
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Expect-Delays [2017-12-15 00:17:36 +0000 UTC]
Nice job, especially on the flags.
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wendy-krieger [2016-12-29 15:57:08 +0000 UTC]
Some of these states look interesting. But the centre is pretty barren. They started up school of the air because the mail system was too slow. (I grew up out there, but live in an Brissie. ).
I probably would had went for having the pilbara and arnenland as indonesian or something, and papuans creeping across cape york.
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Morri12 [2016-05-06 04:10:26 +0000 UTC]
Intriguingly there is some Islamic radicalisation going on among many elders these days, so it's not unreasonable to assume that there would be some traction for Islam in aboriginal communities.
Historically there was already some degree of Islamic conversion going on in Arnhem Land before the British invaded;
""If you go to north-east Arnhem Land there is [a trace of Islam] in song, it is there in painting, it is there in dance, it is there in funeral rituals," says Bradley. "It is patently obvious that there are borrowed items. With linguistic analysis as well, you're hearing hymns to Allah, or at least certain prayers to Allah."
One example of this is a figure called Walitha'walitha, which is worshipped by a clan of the Yolngu people on Elcho Island, off the northern coast of Arnhem Land. The name derives from the Arabic phrase "Allah ta'ala", meaning "God, the exalted". Walitha'walitha is closely associated with funeral rituals, which can include other Islamic elements like facing west during prayers - roughly the direction of Mecca - and ritual prostration reminiscent of the Muslim sujood."
www.bbc.com/news/magazine-2726… Coming from Brisbane with a family from Gympie, I think it's kinda funny to see they're the only ones intact in your world
How come Sydney retained its name?
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snarfevs [2016-04-28 12:39:38 +0000 UTC]
As an Australian, this is fascinating. Whilst I don't know so much about the viability of territorial claims to the rather inhospitable center of Australia without access to more livable regions (Anangu Emirate pops out), there's a commendable degree of creativity here. What I find particularly interesting is the integration of the Southern Cross into the traditional Islamic star and crescent moon in the flags of Novo-Java and Marbaa - given the thematic resonance between the southern cross and the Christan crucifix, how do you reconcile the combination of symbolism? Synchretism, multiculturalism, vagaries of alternate history, or something else?
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ImDeadPanda In reply to snarfevs [2016-05-06 21:12:01 +0000 UTC]
Thanks .
In this universe, the technologies are far more advanced, in particular in agriculture and water desalination. Anangu Emirate is almost entirely dependent from the water provided by the Caliphate. The jamani rebellion often damages the water pipelines between Caliphate and Anangu Emirate, causing severe droughts.
About the southern cross on the flags of Novo-Java and Marbaa, the story is related to the friendship between Portugal and England. Portugal ruled most of the Northern half of Australia, from the Gulf of Cabanel (OTL Gulf of Carpentaria) to the west coast, while England was fighting against Netherlands and France for the control of the East. In addition to the present english territories of Brisbane & Macquarie, England ruled Marbaa, Jaman and Al-Sidani (Sydney). The English power used the Southern Cross on the flags of its australian colonies, and when Portugal and England decided to sign a treaty of close cooperation in Australia, Portuguese added to the flags of their australian colonies the Southern Cross as a symbol of christian unity.
When they gained independence, the arabized Jaman and Al-Sidani erased all trace of the English domination. Marbaa kept a great friendship for England, they decided to keep the southern cross on the national flag, by associating it with a muslim crescent. Same kind of story for Nova-Java, if the kingdom became a muslim place with the conversion of its king to islam, and if they are now allied with the Caliphate, they are still friend with Portugal and England. (As you can see, there is no pro-caliphate rebellion in Macquarie, Brisbane and Marbaa). Nova-Java rose as a very multicultural place where sunni and catholics live in peace, they kept the southern cross and added the caliphate green to the flag (blue for peace and sea, yellow for sun and wealth, green for islam and nature, black is the colour of the Nova-Java's muslim kings dynasty)
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snarfevs In reply to ImDeadPanda [2016-05-24 11:27:34 +0000 UTC]
Well-reasoned and an engaging read - thanks!
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Serge2nd [2016-02-24 07:54:07 +0000 UTC]
Russian Orthodox Church don't enough!
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zalezsky [2015-08-23 02:52:02 +0000 UTC]
I keep coming back to look at this map, it fascinates me so much
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Paramountica [2015-06-18 06:11:32 +0000 UTC]
How did you make this? It looks so beautiful....
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CresentXav [2015-06-05 23:56:53 +0000 UTC]
Such as strange map and a really interesting scenario! Great work!
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coolmanvsgeek [2015-05-26 16:22:58 +0000 UTC]
So how does religion impact the Aboriginal people in Australia?
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ImDeadPanda In reply to coolmanvsgeek [2015-06-18 17:03:12 +0000 UTC]
Most Aboriginal people are sunni, and it kinda looks like islam in Africa, where the religion is really influenced by the local rites.
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DidgeridooKangaroo In reply to ImDeadPanda [2015-06-23 07:26:07 +0000 UTC]
Well, most Aboriginal people I've found still believe in the traditional dream-time beliefs pretty seriously even when the British honestly tried stripping it from them, so personally I find it unreasonable that most of them are Sunni without some real damned conflict and most of the population wiped out similar to now.
But... y'know, my opinion.
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Sevgart [2015-04-03 16:53:16 +0000 UTC]
Very nice! Can I ask you what fonts you used here? I really like them.
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QuantumBranching [2015-03-04 01:05:34 +0000 UTC]
Lovely! I am a bit skeptical about Australia (or Scorchingwastelandofpoisonbiteythingsstan) being able to support over 120 million people, but other than that, thumbs up for a fine and creative piece of work. I really like the flags and the detail work on the religious map. Will we get a world map one of these days?
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mdc01957 [2015-02-07 16:37:01 +0000 UTC]
It's definitely something unique, that's for sure!
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KantiaCartography [2015-02-05 02:09:09 +0000 UTC]
Best Australia map I've ever seen. I would be very interested in knowing the origins of these names.
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IEPH [2015-02-04 14:15:11 +0000 UTC]
So what happens to the Philippines and Japan ITTL?
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ImDeadPanda In reply to IEPH [2015-02-09 15:21:00 +0000 UTC]
Japan is one of the major nation of this universe that controls almost fully the Pacific. Apart from its satellites states and protectorates, the japanese territory covers many Pacific islands, Hawaii, the northern part of the Philippines, Taïwan, Micronesia, Mariana Islands, Sakhalin, some parts of New Guinea ... Japan controls also some satellites like Korea, Ujira & Neraka in Africa (two states placed in OTL Namibia, created by japanese settlers) and have really brotherly relations with Condoria (a nation created by japanese settlers in south California/Baja California ...) Japan also own a lot of extraterrestrial colonies.
Concerning the Philippines, as I said, the Northern half is Japanese, while the southern half is part of the United Duchies of Malaysia, satellite nation of the Mali Empire
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IEPH In reply to ImDeadPanda [2015-02-14 21:59:41 +0000 UTC]
OK then.
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ImDeadPanda In reply to Sir-Conor [2015-02-04 15:06:14 +0000 UTC]
Thanks ! I'm glad you like it !
The first known contacts of Aborigines with non-native peoples was with the muslims explorers during the second part of the XIVth century. If the encounters were peaceful, Muslims took away some indigenous to present them to the Caliph and study them. Most of them died of disease during the journey to the Arabian Peninsula. When the Portuguese decided to conquer the Terra australis, they began large evangelistic missions in Nova Java. Weakened by epidemics brought by Europeans, the natives often resigned themselves to suffer slavery.
When the islamic settlers came to Australia, they realized they would have to face the Portuguese power. They would have to destabilize the solid Portuguese colony that had settled and the solution wasn't so hard to find : they rallied to their cause the aboriginal peoples of the south and create a great alliance of all the aborigines by promising them that they would take back their land and their freedom. Centuries of war started then, and the aborigines where always sent in first line. The little islamo-arabic settlement became an empire, Australia and its natives were flooded under the arabic and european immigration. When the caliphate was proclaimed in Australia, the aborigines reminded to muslims their promise. The caliph decided to thank the natives by giving them the right to perpetuate their traditions and to be considered as equal. In fact, many aborigines were already converted to sunni Islam, and this new promise only create a derivative sunni islamic way of faith, the Anangi Islam. The Anangi islam is comparable to the african islam which is impregnated of ancient indigenous culture.
In the great influence area of the Caliphate, an aboriginal emirate was created, the Anangu Emirate with an emir of almost pure native ancestry. Nowadays, this emirate is in trouble, disturbed by the rise of communism in the traditional non-muslim aboriginal communities and by the wahhabi jamanic guerilla in the north of the country. Many massacres are commited by the Jamanis against the aboriginal populations.
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Sir-Conor In reply to ImDeadPanda [2015-02-05 01:54:47 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the in-depth answer.
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zalezsky [2015-02-04 06:28:52 +0000 UTC]
NOIIIIIIIIIIICE
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Arminius1871 [2015-02-03 20:29:05 +0000 UTC]
Awesome map!
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