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I got a little bored yesterday, and suddenly found a pile of documentation photos from my last padding project.So I decided to share a little knowledge.
Comments are welcome.
EDIT: Clarifyed some details, and changed into a readable font and color. Adjusted some minor spelling mistakes. Added extra lion at the bottom.
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Hmm, it was a while ago, so this is asessments:
Outer fabric, felt, 1m, 25€
Padding, two scrap blankets, 10-20€
Lining fabric, Linen, 1 m, 10€
Sewing thread, 10€
Buckles, 50€
Leather strips, 2€
so 65€ without the fancy straps. It is definitely possible to make it cheaper, especially by choosing cheaper fabric.
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Thank you for you answer. It will help
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It is more of a 15th century model, if the arms were sewn in place and not laced in place.
I have chosen to reduce periodness a bit for heat reduction.
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Your tutorials are making it very difficult for me to save money! haha. I just want to make everything! great job
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Haha.
Theoretically you could make one really good padding, and therefore save money on replacing one or two cheap ones, but if you count the work time it quickly becomes a very unbalanced equation.
Glad you like it.
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Well, thank you. I am really glad that people enjoy my work.
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Great tutorial, pretty complete and easy to follow! Once again, thanks and well done!
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Thank you.
I did some adjustments a few days ago, to make it even more understandable.
And finally got the bloody text black instead of dark blue.
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Yeah, easy to read is also important. Especially for us old guys.
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wow... a really nice work, thanks for sharing the knowledge
a question about the confort of the gambax you are showing. how it feel the movement when you have it on???
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No problem.
Well, this particular gambeson is a little tight around the elbows, which hinders motion a little.
Other than that it allows perfect mobility. It has been used some years now though, and it was much stiffer when it was new.
The major difference between with/without gambeson is the heat. Unless it is cold outside you start sweating about 15 minutes after taking it on, no matter what you do. Faster if you fight in it or are walking. However, it can be quite cosy on chilly evenings, or in winter.
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thanks... it really help my that info. one last question... do you use any armor over it? (Chain maille or plate??)
thakns again, and great work ^^
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Well, both actually. [link]
Since this tutorial was written I have also added sewn-on chainmail pieces to the gambeson, to protect armpits and hips.
That removes the need for a normal chainmail shirt beneath the armour, reducing weight by about 6 kilograms.
[link]
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thanks... excellent information...
it will help a lot with my actual proyect...
and... EXCELLENT WORK... i see a lot of talent in your proyects, and a lot of dedication... ^^
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No problem. I like to share experience.
Now I'm getting curious; what project are you doing?
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jajajaja... to many question... to few answer??
i'm trying to recreate a full armor of a knight from the XII century... and the difficult part (at least for me at this point) is the gambeson, because i'm not really good with the tailoring... and there is little information about the patterns...
so your tutorial was like a star fall from heaven...
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Just so that you know; my tutorial is perhaps not the best base for making accurate period equipment. It is more adopted for larp use, in a general medieval setting.
If aiming for 12th century I would recommend sewing the arms on entirely, and lengthen the lower edge to just above the knees, perhaps making a slit or two. I am unsure of the period padding method for 12th century, but I believe wool blankets should be close enough. In approx. 14th century, linen becomes the main material, and as much as 30 layers have been noted.
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jajaja... yeah... but it helps a lot
you have a point... and is the patterns for the arms that are the most anoying part until now... but a full sew sleve is not the only form... the are a few gambeson of the period that have half sleve sew.. so youo can have a little refresh in the arm... and more movement.
but your tutorial really open my eyes in what concerns about padding...
thanks a lot ^^
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No problem. Good luck with your sewing!
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Thanks for sharing. I need a new gambeson and I may use your pattern to improve my homemade pattern.
Lee
(Ld. Leif Wadson in the Current Middle Ages)
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Awesome work! I was looking for something like this for days <3
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Thank you.
Just curious; is it for crafting or for reference? I couldn't find any non-drawn armour parts in your gallery...
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For crafting - I don't do much of it, and I don't usually post what I do. I'm preparing a LARP outfit, and I can't afford a historical padded armour, so I decidied to make my own - just had no idea how to tackle it... So this really saves me.
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I see. Good luck, ant if you could get a pic of the done project I would be happy to see it.
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Well, all in all I found another way to make a padded armour (I bought a piece of fabric that's already padded, and am just tailoring a shirt from it 
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That works as well, but it removes the challenge.
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I haven't sewn in my whole life, I'm not really into challenges when I have problems sewing a button to my shirt
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How might you alter this pattern for a woman?
-Great job by the way!!
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Thank you!
Well, firstly your body shape matters more than your gender, as several female larpers have used this padding with little or no problem.
But suppose you got a larger-than-average bust and hips, then I would increase the width of the front parts around the bust, if needed decrease width around the waist, and increase it over the hips. If hips are very wide, it might be needed to extend the padding a little downwards.
Make sure the armour as well are adapted for this body shape, as most are built for men.
You might also want to increase the padding thickness on the hips a bit, as wider hips allows more weight to be rested there from harness and legs. (Which is positive, as it deburdens your shoulders and spine, but might be uncomfortable in the beginning.)
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This is FANTASTIC! Thanks very much for posting! A proper arming doublet is up next on my giant list of stuff to sew and this is going to help a LOT.
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Thanks.
Just curious; are you going for hand- or machine sewn?
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Mostly by hand, I think, though some of the bigger basic construction seems might be done with the machine. Just to make it go faster...
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Sounds sound. Every time I've handsewn something, I wonder "Didn't I learn something from the last time?", watch a movie and relax a bit, and start planning the next handsewn project.
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That's the best way to do it! Quick question - what does your pattern piece look like for the collar? I always have the worst time trying to create decent-looking collars...
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This is the principle:
[link]
The red cutouts are if you want it really glued to your neck. This padding does not have any cutouts.
Most people have problem with collars being to large at the top, and therefore leaning outwards. That can be countered with the red cutouts, and by making sure to make the rounded parts cut in a lot. The starting angle against the lower edge should be about 45 degrees, depending on your neck shape.
The other main problem is floppyness. I solved that by using a very thick and stiff woolen blanket as core, and quilting it extensively.
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BRILLIANT! Thanks very much for the help. I stitched up the main body pieces two weekends ago and the next step is the quilting. Have to work it in around some other projects so it's sort being completed in stages...
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No problem.
Just promise to send a picture when you are done.
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seriously, i've been looking for this all my life!...100 years at least! : O
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Cool. 
If you make one, promise that you send pictures
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I sure will make one sometime and I promise I'll take pics!
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Awesome! Looks very cool and authentic.
This helps me a lot, thanks.
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