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If you think humanity is so evil but do nothing to try to better it or yourself, I've got news for you: you're a hypocrite.YOU
ARE
NO
BETTER.
Change it. Do something, make yourself worthy of the high place where you throw all your stones from.
I'm looking at you, #WeHateHumans .
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I definitely agree. While humanity can be pretty screwed up, there are still good people out there in the world.
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I still will. And will have fun being a malfactor.
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They have nothing better to do than blame everyone else for the world's problems while taking no responsibility for their actions and not doing anything about it.
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Ikr? They should teach people to take what they need(not too much and not too little) leaving the rest for the animals. Encourage people to choice adoption over getting pregnant and so much more. These people need to realize that although it was humans who (almost) drove the whales into exinction;it was also the humans who brought them back. That's why they(misanthrope) should say that all humans are the same. Make that all of us should show and teach people
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People need to grow up and see that not all people are bad. People are awesome! most people who hate humanity are edgy wolf worshipping losers who are spoiled. Honestly, not all people kill for fun or laugh at weak animals. Dogs kill people for no reason and they know better. Also no those people did not deserve to die because some ugly ass animal went total berserk because they did'nt get their bacon bits.
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Sorry I never heard of a dog who want snapped over something that. Most who snapped for no reason are old,sick and in pain,or have been abused. And dogs have laws against killing?
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Hard to not make that a standard....when that becomes increasingly true.
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We're all shitty. Everything that we do or try to fix, we will do it in the most harmful way possible. We can never truly eliminate racism, sexism, and homophobia because then we will start to fear the people who were once the majority.
There is no way to "save humanity" because there's too many of us. As social animals, we tried to be alike until there were seas and seas of children and children and children, each conforming to the mold of who they are supposed to be. Being how you actually want to be could land you in an asylum. I know I yield to the endless peer pressure. I know you do, too.
We're godawful. Embrace it
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I don't hate humans...I hate humans' vile nature.
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If you're saying "humans suck", you're basically saying yourself sucks as wel. You're a human being too, smartass.
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but what if im not human
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then maybe you should go back to tumblr
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Geez,I don't see them doing anything about it.😒
all they ever do is bitch and complain,they are making that example of humanity.
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People also killed themselves after watching Avatar. The movie was awesome, but earth is just as beautiful.
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It's their loss. They're suicidal, they wanted to die, at least we have less suicidal people bitching about how life sucks.
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Wait,why did they kill themselves?
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They came to a sudden realization that there lives were lame compared to how the na'vi lived. They felt they could never have that bond with nature on earth, because apparently, "we're to far gone". They also believed that humans sucked, an estimated 20,000 people took their lives. It honestly isn't difficult to live alongside nature and behave like modern day civilians; biotecture and permaculture are perfect examples.
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Wow...just wow
Its amazing how a movie can effect people.
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I know, if anything, it should've inspired them.
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People actually killed themselves over a movie.
Now that hilarious! HAHAHAHAHA!
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Wait, there's a group that hates humans?!?!?!
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Of course and why not ? I am a misantrroph for a good reason
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Hmm .... maybe "good" but the wrong description.
We say more comprehensible. And what is my reason?
Now, I was cheated for years despised exploited fucked
and bullied. My parents hardly interesiert hats and my brother has always picked on me. This experience made an incorrect unit and malice BUT brought me to my attitude to people here is the dog buried. Precisely because of this experience because I refuse to fit me into the cliché of typichen misanthrope. Anyone who knows me in rl I would never expect often get to hear that I am a very friendly and helpful human being. This sounds paradoxical? As Misantroph help people and be friendly? Yes maybe ... no VERY probably. But I will not just be hyprocrite. I never want to be what I hate what has made me what I am. And I am aware that not all people are evil and bad. But, unfortunately, far too many
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Ouch! That sucks! Either way, it is true that there are a lot of bad people in society. It's good that you try to remain positive with people!
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Yes because I mean what it brings me to treat people badly have not done me? Just absolutely nothing. For me it is simply this: Is anyone kind to me, I am kind to him. But who is mean to me also I'm not even friendly. But something that really bothers me is that some just do not let criticism against humanity. We are maybe not the worst species on the planet, but we are not even the angels.
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True. Respect is something that is earned, not automatic.
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I love how most of the misanthropes commenting here are either deactivated or banned.
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I only pay attention to the people I like. The rest of humanity and its delusional dreams and behavior can do what they please. I refuse to take part in any of those "immortality" and/or transhumanism projects. I'm not staying here with these idiots any longer than I have to.
How they think humans can overcome the order nature and the universe is the epitome of arrogance. Well, humans are also arrogant anyway.....
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But isn't that comment, by putting others of your species down, in itself, arrogant?
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Perhaps, but I wasn't intending on elevating myself. The very things that are plaguing this planet I unwittingly contribute to because it's the only way to live. If you read/understood the comment fully, I said humanity's error in thinking they're above everything for whatever reason is arrogant. We say we're sophisticated, but we create all sorts of problems for others. (Bills, crime, health insurance, etc. That's what I meant by 'idiots') An "advanced" species such as ourselves should know not to create such asinine problems for everyone to live with/by. It's rather idiotic don't you agree?
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You probably weren't but I was just pointing that out. I want to say a few things though.
< i>The very things that are plaguing this planet I unwittingly contribute to because it's the only way to live.
I'm not so sure. Look at some of the ways people in third world countries live that don't contribute to pollution or mass consumption. I'm not saying everything they do is eco friendly but it is a place to start if you want to fix the earth.
If you read/understood the comment fully, I said humanity's error in thinking they're above everything for whatever reason is arrogant.
I did. And it is arrogant...in a way
But many people give the 'we're above everyone else' speech often because that's what gives them hope. Not all the time, though, we all know people use it as an excuse to get what they want. It gives us a quality that we can grasp and understand and feel good about. After all that bad stuff you have said about humanity, when faced with all of that, what can can you and everyone hold unto that will lift your head up and keep you going? 'We're the scourge of the earth and have no purpose other than to destroy because we are a mistake'? Life itself, on a cosmic scale by that logic, could be considered without purpose.
It's not entirely correct to be called just agant, call it desperate to find purpose.
As mentioned before, there are people who use this excuse for their own gain, but think of the many people who actually help one another and use the 'we're better' as a reason to be responsible.
And to be honest I've never seen an animal other than ourselves go to the moon or create technology....
3. We say we're sophisticated, but we create all sorts of problems for others. (Bills, crime, health insurance, etc. That's what I meant by 'idiots') An "advanced" species such as ourselves should know not to create such asinine problems for everyone to live with/by.
Everything requires something in order achieve something else no matter how advanced you are. One can not receive unless giving something of value in return, even in a natural non-human world. If everyone was happy and got everything they wanted they would not have the incentive to improve thus halting progress. In fact, it could never happen because you could never make everyone happy at a time because it would require things that could please one person and anger another. (You're an example.)
Without money or currency, you can not barter or at least regulate how much one should receive for a job. If you could not barter, you can get nothing. If you get nothing, your standard of living drops. When your standard of living drops you can not produce electricity, new roads, maintain health for other people, or research into problems. if you can not research into problems, society can not progress and other even worse problems will arise. So without things like bills and health insurance, we could not have created the society we live in today.
You may call it stupid but this stuff has been going on for hundreds of years. Even in the realm of the stars, milky way, and the laws of physics.
No matter how sophisticated one is, it still requires cooperation that may look like problems to everyone.
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1. The Earth will take care of itself, I'm sure. Our foolish actions on the planet will be healed over time, but it would be nice if there was a worldwide effort to help at least try to fix some of the problems. Not likely, but it's a nice dream. There are people attempting it which is good, but I fear it's too little too late. To me, true human progress is eliminating corruption, poverty, etc. Not creating new high tech playthings.
2. I'm very aware of this. We need something to occupy/brighten up the short lives we were given. But honestly, everything just is. There is no purpose. Purpose is a term that we created along with things like destiny, meaning, value, etc. They likely didn't exist before we came along. Each person has a different definition of what they mean. Those terms are the world to us, but nil to the universe and nature. In essence, we're playing a game of pretend. Our time in history is a mere millisecond to the universe. Our millisecond will be up some time in the future and all of our proud accomplishments forgotten. So, everyone should enjoy the time they have doing what they love to their hearts' content. (So long as it's not harming others.)
3. Yeah, a utopia where everyone is happy will never happen since everyone's idea of utopia is different. However, what I meant is this: Imagine the world we live in today without the need of money or bartering. They could make medicines/technology without the need of money, you could keep food on the table without the need for paying for it, you could live in your home without all the bills, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Paleolithic humans didn't need to pay dues to hunt and gather, they just went out and did it. Archaeologists have found evidence that they even performed surgeries back then and I highly doubt there were cumbersome health insurance barriers. Our current society is based on jumping through several needless hoops just to get the basics of essential needs. The hyena on the Savannah doesn't have to seek employment to hunt, the python doesn't need to pay a weekly fee to catch prey, etc. They may not have the advanced tools we do, but they're doing a heck of fine job with what they have. However, they too have a form of technology (for free). Termites build their mounds with controlled air flow for self-adjusting temperature, different species of spiders have been known to work together to create sheet webs to collect food when it became scarce, bees build their colonies with the hexagon shapes for maximum space and storage. There's many other stories of animal ingenuity. On a cosmic level, the Sun gives off a solar flare freely. No fee at all. Asteroids streak past on their own terms. Not because their frequent flier miles have ran out. Stars go supernova for free.
We're only cooperating to make things unnecessarily hard.
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1. (i'm going to combine two questions with one here if you're wondering)
A what if your mother told you that you were a mistake? Something unintional?....I know a lot of people who would kill themselves over that prospect.
How can you do something if everything is a waste? You would not continue a conversation that is meaningless or do an action that you find no value in doing. What separates us from animals is that consciously we do not want our efforts to go in vain and we know why we don't at the same time. If it is all an illusion, how happy are you with the truth? As you are demonstrating, the truth is cold and nobody likes it. But as you've said, you believe it is to little and to late to do anything (for earth mind you). So why try? Because you find purpose and meaning in saving the world, that's why. Even if it's fruitless, you will not give up. That's the beauty of humanity.
You are right, purpose and meaning does not exist. So does time. In our understanding of time, it is, in technicality, nonexistent and is only a concept of a series of events in this universe that we use to catalogue. Likewise, we use purpose, a simple concept to give us desire to follow, create, destroy, and put together. I think it could be considered the most powerful and complex 'tool' we have ever used.
I am aware that our time is short...but what do we, you, have that could make anyone more happy than hope? Is it better to tell a patient that will only live for a short period of time that he will die in 3 days or just let them live and die happily?
In technicality if purpose was just a word, in your eyes, why would you want to save the earth, something, by definition and logic is insignificant compared to the cosmos? There are sure to be plenty of earth like planets in this cosmos that could and probably are containing life...so this planet is nothing special...In fact, if we destroy life right now by our means and kill ourselves in the process...wouldn't that not be anything bad as there is 'no purpose or meaning in it anyways'?
3. However, what I meant is this: Imagine the world we live in today without the need of money or bartering. They could make medicines/technology without the need of money, you could keep food on the table without the need for paying for it, you could live in your home without all the bills, etc.
They tried something similar to that with communism, it didn't work out in many countries that employed it because many people didn't have any incentive to work better than each other (yes governments had a part of it, but look at all the communist countries and tell me how many of them have truly care free people?) leading to poor quality goods and services. If people don't have the incentive to improve, even if they have everything, how far do you think people could go?
And before you say that is selfish, many animals will not do things if they do not get food or other rewards from the action. Most untrained and unconditioned animals won't cross the street to save someone else's pup. Natural selection, baby! XD We have a (or in our eyes) higher standard.
You have to think about what it takes to GET those things on the table and made before you can just HAVE them. It's more than just spiders spinning a web or animals using simple tools or instincts. Medicine takes years of research and several years of development in labs which is substantially more complex than hunting. People don't want just to get just food and basic necessities for that work. Not to mention it needs to be done for millions of people.
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1.Well, I wouldn't want to kill myself if my mother told me that I was a mistake. As long as she's shown me unconditional love, it wouldn't matter how I came to be. Committing suicide over that would be turning your back on those who have shown you love even if your parent(s) revealed such a truth and wanted nothing to do with you.
1.1a That is just my fruitless hopes of humanity as a whole doing something positive for once and overcoming our hardwired selfish nature. If not stopped, threatens to destroy ourselves and other planets. (Collectively we act like viruses to this planet and are possibly about to spread.) If we get to other planets, I have no doubt that they'll end up trashed like this one. On a cosmic scale, purpose, value, and the like don't exist. They're only relevant to us and us alone. (Maybe to any other species that may exist in the universe.) I'm sorry, but everything we create (well intentioned or not) causes destruction in some way, shape, or form. It always leads to some type of pollution, side effects, destruction, etc. (I guess that's the Law of Physics too) Well, I'm only human and I know for certain there's at least a few diamonds in this humongous pile of needles. But it doesn't change the fact that our own success/innovations and selfish nature aren't a threat to us as a whole. Yes, our stubbornness is our greatest tool, but it's also our greatest downfall. We'll keep supporting things that are actually hurting us. (Politics, bad habits, guilty pleasures, etc)
1.2 I've heard many theories on our existence. Theories I've heard: We're put here to conquer, we're living in a virtual reality, we're living in a Matrix, we were put here by God, we're an experiment gone wrong, we're the thoughts of someone else, we're in a dream, etc. Maybe we're a darn lucky species. I personally don't know what to fully believe. I'm just enjoying the fact I'm here and am thankful to whoever or whatever is responsible.
3. Very good points there. There's really no perfect system. Not that I was promoting communism, but I was just pondering on ways to make things a little easier for us. Oh well, the madness goes on. Overall, our endless need for more and for comfort is also what's hurting us, but no one will want to give it up willingly. Not even me.
3.1 Well, there are humans that won't lift a finger to help someone in need as well. There have been countless cases where people have been murdered, injured, etc and not one person who witnessed it tried to help in any way. There are cases of cannibalism in humans as well as in animals. What of the cases where employees and customers are beat up/stabbed/trampled to death over sales? See how quickly we revert back to our tribal traits en masse and/or when societal structure is taken away? There were people fighting/killing over supplies when Hurricane Sandy hit New England and when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. Sorry, we're really not that different behavior-wise. This is what I mean by "playing a game of pretend". We're pretending to be advanced and civilized (we also believe we're invincible too) because we have society and technology when in reality, our tools are more advanced than us.
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1. Well, I wouldn't want to kill myself if my mother told me that I was a mistake. As long as she's shown me unconditional love, it wouldn't matter how I came to be. Committing suicide over that would be turning your back on those who have shown you love even if your parent(s) revealed such a truth and wanted nothing to do with you.
What I was implying, and probably should've made more clear, that the hypothetical mother called you a mistake because she simply didn't care about you. (I hope you don't take that as an insult as it wasn't meant to be 
That is just my fruitless hopes of humanity as a whole doing something positive for once and overcoming our hardwired selfish nature. If not stopped, threatens to destroy ourselves and other planets. (Collectively we act like viruses to this planet and are possibly about to spread.) If we get to other planets, I have no doubt that they'll end up trashed like this one. On a cosmic scale, purpose, value, and the like don't exist. They're only relevant to us and us alone. (Maybe to any other species that may exist in the universe.) I'm sorry, but everything we create (well intentioned or not) causes destruction in some way, shape, or form. It always leads to some type of pollution, side effects, destruction, etc. (I guess that's the Law of Physics too) Well, I'm only human and I know for certain there's at least a few diamonds in this humongous pile of needles. But it doesn't change the fact that our own success/innovations and selfish nature aren't a threat to us as a whole. Yes, our stubbornness is our greatest tool, but it's also our greatest downfall. We'll keep supporting things that are actually hurting us. (Politics, bad habits, guilty pleasures, etc)
That's somewhat pessimistic. By that logic, an animal species can be just as bad, they kills other organisms such as plants and animals and it attacks others of it's species for breeding rights and they out compete other species for resources, so it is nothing new. Even if we are aware, as you might say, that we are doing so, we can not stop our 'selfish' nature because it is techincally a part of evolution, even if it is distorted by free will, purpose, and technology.
I do not think we'd probably spread to other planets before we kill our selves. and techincally it's not even worth it in terms of money. If the moon was covered and gold bars, it would still cost to much to go up there and collect them according to one of my teachers. As for settlements, for many years and even decades they would be so small that the damage would be minimum compared to earth's damage.
1.2 I've heard many theories on our existence. Theories I've heard: We're put here to conquer, we're living in a virtual reality, we're living in a Matrix, we were put here by God, we're an experiment gone wrong, we're the thoughts of someone else, we're in a dream, etc. Maybe we're a darn lucky species. I personally don't know what to fully believe. I'm just enjoying the fact I'm here and am thankful to whoever or whatever is responsible.
A wise policy. ^^ Personally I'd like to be grateful to the creator or creating force and make the best of life.
3. Very good points there. There's really no perfect system. Not that I was promoting communism, but I was just pondering on ways to make things a little easier for us. Oh well, the madness goes on. Overall, our endless need for more and for comfort is also what's hurting us, but no one will want to give it up willingly. Not even me.
Thanks. 
3.1 Well, there are humans that won't lift a finger to help someone in need as well. There have been countless cases where people have been murdered, injured, etc and not one person who witnessed it tried to help in any way.
But likewise there have been many people who have sacrificed themselves so that another could live. People do charity. And countless people have benefited from their actions.
There are cases of cannibalism in humans as well as in animals.
Most of the cases of group cannibalism I have heard of were for the purpose of ritual or cultural norm, not food or competition as in animals, and those cultures either have improved and don't continue to practice that or are so small and remote that they shouldn't represent humanity. The others were very disturbed individuals that are a very small minority of the population.
What of the cases where employees and customers are beat up/stabbed/trampled to death over sales? See how quickly we revert back to our tribal traits en masse and/or when societal structure is taken away?There were people fighting/killing over supplies when Hurricane Sandy hit New England and when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.
I agree that when society doesn't have it's eye on us and the going gets tough we revert. (One of my favorite books is the renowned, Lord of the Flies, a tail on the fall and conditioning of society) A majority of the time, though, and in normal circumstances we act at least somewhat civilized, we don't just go to the grocery store and off someone's baby for our own selfish reasons. For many people, good comes naturally. There is a study that suggests that infants can tell and respond to right and wrong and generally prefer right without parental conditioning. www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/mag… Other people, I will admit, need to be conditioned....not that that always works.
And yes, what we prefer is not always what we do, I'm just putting out a thought.
Not to mention what I have said previously about people and charity.
Sorry, we're really not that different behavior-wise. This is what I mean by "playing a game of pretend". We're pretending to be advanced and civilized (we also believe we're invincible too) because we have society and technology when in reality, our tools are more advanced than us.
But do you consider the ones who made them? It takes more than a cat to make a society.
Invincible, no, I agree. We have intellegnce, but intelligence does not equal morally correct and perfect.
It does give us a bonus though in the evolution race track.
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1. Nah, I'm not insulted at all. No worries. 
1.1 Pessimistic it is (it's actually realistic too), but you're right that it can't be stopped because it's just in our nature to behave this way. Fat lot of good it's doing for the world as a whole though. :-/
Did you know that the world's plastic ends up in the oceans? www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pRy88…
Do you know about E-Waste? It's basically all of our trashed Smartphones, laptops, USB flashdrives, etc getting dumped and rotting in some landfill. That's listed in this video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VgSMr…
1.1a We just might kill ourselves beforehand. I'm just afraid that I'll live to see the day humanity does itself in. :-/ (That's highly ironic isn't it? XD) Also, I'm not talking about just the Moon, they're planning on colonizing Mars and possibly other worlds. From what all that I've learned from research on it, Mars isn't habitable for us at all. It gets hit with 200 asteroids per year, it has month to year long dust storms, no magnetosphere to protect it from cosmic radiation or solar winds, etc. We'd have to be microbes to successfully live there. They're planning a one-way manned mission to Mars in 2023 to start the first Mars colony. (Look up Mars One on DuckDuckGo.com) I fear it will be a fatal voyage. The trip itself takes 6-9 months and the crew will face unadulterated radiation for the entire trip. Well, we'll see how it goes in 2023. I think the best way to explore the universe is through AI.
1.2 Thanks! ^_^ That's the best way for me to look at it. I see you feel the same too.
3. You're welcome. :-D Yeah, life's an unpredictable rollercoaster.
3.1 That's very true as well, but it goes to show that we're a mixed bag of people. There's the good, the bad, the ugly, and the decent.
3.1a True that they are a very minor populace, but they're still out there somewhere.
3.1b Oh yes. I've read "The Lord of the Flies" and it's a very good book. I've also heard of that study and witnessed it in real life babysitting my cousins and nephews. Babies (and small children in general) can sense when something is truly wrong. They have a 6th sense about these types of things. (It makes me wonder if we lose it as we grow older.) Honestly, animals do too. Even wild ones. Look at how they fight back when they're being abused. A group of killer whales capsized a hunting boat that was known for killing the whales. (It was one of those large, heavy boats, not a simple one.)
3.2 Yes, it takes more than a cat to create society, but even well-woven creations eventually crumble.
3.2a Yeah, there are lots of people out there who believe that we're invincible and/or will become immortal (both are equally unrealistic) because we have technology. Pfft. (Some believe getting the human mind transferred to a robot will achieve immortality. Um, how many high tech devices die and malfunction? All of them is how much.) That's the arrogance and misguided thinking that burns me up. (Which goes back to the majority of humanity not realizing just little we really are compared to the universe and nature. Both can take us out in an eye blink. To me, the universe is experimenting with different things non-sentient and sentient.)
It's definitely favored us in this battle against the forces of nature whatever other force(s) there are. Though I wouldn't call it intelligence, but rather knowledge. We're the most knowledgeable species, yes. Knowledge and intelligence are two different things entirely (Though they can go hand in hand and sometimes complement each other). Knowledge = inventing things, book smarts, tech smarts, street smarts, business smarts, political prowess, etc. Intelligence = common sense, compassion, good judgment, etc.
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Sorry for the pause, I was busy for a bit. (and will be busy later but I'll be sure to reply.
1. Nah, I'm not insulted at all. No worries. But on the topic at hand, I would be rather upset, but if I knew I had people that did care about me, I wouldn't end my own life. That would be giving up and betrayal to the ones who've loved me. Even if I didn't have people who cared about me, I'd try to find someone who would.
That's a good point. Didn't really see it from the views of others.
1.1a We just might kill ourselves beforehand. I'm just afraid that I'll live to see the day humanity does itself in. :-/ (That's highly ironic isn't it? XD)
Totes XD
Also, I'm not talking about just the Moon, they're planning on colonizing Mars and possibly other worlds. From what all that I've learned from research on it, Mars isn't habitable for us at all. It gets hit with 200 asteroids per year, it has month to year long dust storms, no magnetosphere to protect it from cosmic radiation or solar winds, etc. We'd have to be microbes to successfully live there. They're planning a one-way manned mission to Mars in 2023 to start the first Mars colony. (Look up Mars One on DuckDuckGo.com) I fear it will be a fatal voyage. The trip itself takes 6-9 months and the crew will face unadulterated radiation for the entire trip. Well, we'll see how it goes in 2023. I think the best way to explore the universe is through AI.
Technically I was using the moon as only an example as to how inconvenient it would be money wise to go to/colonize any extraterrestrial body.
We have people designing things against solar winds and other phenomenon detrimental to human health. Even though there is still the risk, our space ships and shuttles have become more and more advanced over the last couple decades.
True that they are a very minor populace, but they're still out there somewhere.
And mostly do it because they are misinformed or/and do not comprehend modern society, and thus human, taboo.
They exist, but extremists of any group should not be used for judgement on the whole of any organization or group of people.
Yeah, there are lots of people out there who believe that we're invincible and/or will become immortal (both are equally unrealistic) because we have technology. Pfft. (Some believe getting the human mind transferred to a robot will achieve immortality. Um, how many high tech devices die and malfunction? All of them is how much.) That's the arrogance and misguided thinking that burns me up.
I agree with the tech and invincibility thing. (in fact that was a main thing in one of my childhood stories of a person loosing their virtual memory bit by bit over thousands of years X3 Pretty convenient)
( Which goes back to the majority of humanity not realizing just little we really are compared to the universe and nature. Both can take us out in an eye blink. To me, the universe is experimenting with different things non-sentient and sentient.)
But like wise we can take out parts of it in a jiffy as you have just said, so we probably could, if we get to a super stage in psychics, try not go down without a fight... to the determent of the thing trying to kill us. Even if we are a bad influence on the planet and universe, we are still and influence and a force.
If it were trying to kill us.
If the universe was, as you imply, sentient and with a goal and thus a purpose in mind, which, considering the 'lack of purpose' argument with the 'happen by chance' thing, isn't true...wouldn't it have killed us if we were truly a scourge beyond saving? Logically speaking that gives humanity a purpose.
It's definitely favored us in this battle against the forces of nature whatever other force(s) there are. Though I wouldn't call it intelligence, but rather knowledge. We're the most knowledgeable species, yes. Knowledge and intelligence are two different things entirely (Though they can go hand in hand and sometimes complement each other). Knowledge = inventing things, book smarts, tech smarts, street smarts, business smarts, political prowess, etc. Intelligence = common sense, compassion, good judgment, etc.
According to the dictionary I've used, intelligence is the ability to acquire new information. Hence why the term 'enemy intelligence' is used by military forces.
Knowledge is the concepts that are gained.
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No problem, it's nice to know that people with different opinions can act respectably in a debate. ^^
I think I'm forgetting a reply......I'll respond to it later if I can remember it/it's pointed out.
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It's okay. Other things happen outside of the Internet world. Don't worry about it.
1. Glad to open up more views on such a touchy topic.
1.1a XD
That may be true and it may not be as bad, but even NASA said their best spacesuits are leaky. Sometimes the more advanced stuff is even more problematic. It seems as that every time there's a new technology out, the problems it eventually gets are more intricate to fix. However, I still feel that the safest space exploration is through AI. It's better in every way. There's a major difference between plausibility and possibility.
Yeah, extremists are in everything imaginable.
1.1b We can take out parts of the universe? Since when? Yeah, we have better safeguards against natural disasters, but both are unpredictable forces that have been here long before we were even around. We may think we know a lot about nature and the universe, but they're remodeling their theories at nearly every turn which shows how much they really don't know. And honestly, science is a useful tool, but that too didn't exist before we invented it.
Remember this: Everything that has a beginning has an end. Even if we do get to accomplish all of those wonderful things in sci-fi like space travel, longer life, etc when our time is up, it won't mean anything to us. Not even our greatest pieces of technology will last forever. We're enjoying them to the fullest content as we should, but don't expect it (or anything) to last forever. We're running away from ourselves and from the inevitable. (It's understandable, but some people are so deluded into thinking that it won't happen ever.)
I found this article called 7 Ways the Universe Can Kill Us Without Warning (Excuse the language in the article
I never implied that the universe was sentient in any way (it might be, who really knows?), but it shows no mercy for anything. Stars burn out/turn into Red Giants/go supernova, black holes evaporate, planets get swallowed by them (a planet was torn in half in fact), some black holes even consume themselves because they're so powerful. Did they have any purpose? They were wiped out regardless. What makes us think we're anything special because we have society and playthings that malfunction, break down, etc over time? Yeah, they're amazing feats for what they're worth, but everything and everyone that's within the universe is subject to its fury. There are forces at work that we can scarcely comprehend yet we think we're above it all because "we have technology". I'd say we're just darn lucky. It's a miracle that life exists at all. Like I said before, it's likely cold, hard chance that we're here and it won't last. We're a force alright, but we're unstable and may just do ourselves in before anything natural or cosmic happens. (Sort of like that black hole that consumed itself.) One day nature is going to bite back. (Yellowstone Super Volcano, asteroid, etc) We control and are above nothing.
"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." - Will Durant
1.2 That's pretty much what I said though. Knowledge and intelligence can indeed go hand in hand.
1.3 Yeah, it's huge relief that there's people who can debate civilly like we have been doing. Glad to have met you.
Nah, you've responded to everything.
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Do you know what you're hating?
1. On yourself. YOU ARE A HUMAN.
2. HUMANS ARE THE ONLY ONE BEING IN THE WORLD WHO ARE RATIONAL. If humans weren't there, the world would be a lot different than it looks like today.
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they dont but wolfs are way better becasue they are kinda endangered
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Except they're NOT endangered.
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ummmmmmmm they will be if we keep hunting them!
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The wolf population is quite large, it is extremely unlikely that they will even get close to endangered and if they do a law will be passed to protect them from being hunted.
If everyone just stopped hunting wolves, the population would skyrocket, the wolves would use up all of their resources and then starve to death. Is that what you want to happen?
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sure because they ARE. dumbas
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I love how you're calling me dumb, yet you can't even spell your insults right.
Let's face it, the only reason you even care about them being hunted is because they're "pretty" and "majestic". Did you know every year there is a festival dedicated to killing rattlesnakes? At least wolves just get a bullet, these snakes are decapitated and skinned. Imagine that same thing, but with wolves. Everyone would freak out and it would be shut down very quickly. You know why? Because rattlers aren't "pretty" and if an animal isn't pretty, no one cares.
Rattlers can be brutally slaughtered every single year in at least 6 states and no one cares, yet if one wolf gets shot the whole freaking world ends. Are you seeing the double standard here? Neither of these species are endangered, both are potentially dangerous, but you only care about the "pretty" one.
All you wolfaboos are the same. "SAVE THE WOLVES. SCREW EVERYTHING ELSE."
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