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Description Bundeswehr Schutzenschnur qualification course.
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Str3ss [2011-02-05 17:24:21 +0000 UTC]

Some of the MG3 used Today are the old MG42's with the new "recoil-booster" and with the change in caliber and firing-rate!
Sometimes there are still the old Stamps with two X's over the 42 and an 3 added after that
sometimes you find even a swastika on the guns.... it's remarkable that the Guns used in WWII are still in Service today! I fired them myself! and the MG3 is still prefered by Soldiers in the field because of the small caliber of the new MG4!

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WolfwithGlasses In reply to Str3ss [2011-05-04 20:51:50 +0000 UTC]

Ich kenne ne Menge Leute beim Bund die mit MG3 und MG4 geschossen haben. Die sagen alle das gleiche, das MG4 ist ein StΓΌck Plastickscheisse.

Was die Hakenkreuze auf den Waffen angeht, bis 2003 hatten die meisten K98k des Wachbattalions noch die alten WH Stempel mit Hakenkreuz.

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Str3ss In reply to WolfwithGlasses [2011-05-15 11:54:16 +0000 UTC]

naja schon klar , hab das ganze auch nie bezweifelt! wollte nur feststellen, dass die Bundeswehr noch Waffen benutzt, die bereits im Zweiten Wk aktiv genutzt wurden, und nicht danach produziert wurden!

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DerShishaGott [2010-09-05 09:08:09 +0000 UTC]

oh nice^^ did you get the schuetzenschnur? i did my qualification in the german army too but i failed shooting with the mg3. too much recoil for a small soldier like me

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pziig [2009-09-19 23:09:35 +0000 UTC]

so did the gi's like the MG3 ?

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revdisk In reply to pziig [2009-10-08 02:51:59 +0000 UTC]

It's not a bad MG. I think the MAG-58 is better. But the MG3 was a LOT better than our old M60.

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Ortaon [2007-08-15 11:57:57 +0000 UTC]

The Modfication on MG-3 is a stable rate of Fire ( about 1200 RPM, the MG 42 fired at 1400 RPM but if the burst was too long the Rate of Fire increased to 1750/1800 RPM )

The MG-42 is chambered in 7.92, MG-3 is in 7.62 NATO

ANd there is another modification on the Flash Hider ^^

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revdisk In reply to Ortaon [2007-08-15 23:08:43 +0000 UTC]

Aside from the caliber change, not very major changes. But definite improves. Essentially, it's the same design considering the weapon is roughly 65 years old. I still do think the fire rate is a touch too high. It's controllable, considering I qualified on it with 15 rounds.

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Ortaon In reply to revdisk [2007-08-16 05:54:58 +0000 UTC]

I've a friend who was in Bundeswehr, for the Machine gun MG-3, they must fire only small burst of 6/8 Rounds to hit the Target.

Shotting in Full auto 200 rounds in one burst it's generally for...Movies ^^

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revdisk In reply to Ortaon [2007-08-24 04:42:57 +0000 UTC]

It took me some time to get used to the fire range. While I didn't do 200 round bursts, the Spanish Army was rather forgiving of my longer bursts. We just swapped out the barrels more often.

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Architronika [2007-07-18 03:36:19 +0000 UTC]

how can this be a Bundeswehr?

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revdisk In reply to Architronika [2007-08-08 23:07:21 +0000 UTC]

The Bundeswehr ran the qualification and handed out the cords. Obliviously US soldiers are not part of the Bundeswehr.

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KSKSoldat [2007-05-12 07:08:41 +0000 UTC]

Very nice...I simply can't wait for the MG4 to be released and approved for service.
Good pictures! Definately going into my favorites.

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revdisk In reply to KSKSoldat [2007-05-15 01:49:58 +0000 UTC]

They're releasing another version? Basically the same weapon with refinements, or a completely new design?

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KSKSoldat In reply to revdisk [2007-05-15 17:48:29 +0000 UTC]

Completely new design, looks a lot like the M249 the US uses, heres a link to a picture,

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I think it looks awesome and will go a long ways for IdZ.

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revdisk In reply to KSKSoldat [2007-05-16 22:33:49 +0000 UTC]

Yea, it's a copy of the FN Minimi. The M249 is also a copy of the Minimi.

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KSKSoldat In reply to revdisk [2007-05-16 23:13:43 +0000 UTC]

ahh. Well I thought the FN Minimi and the M249 were the same gun. Oh well....thanks for correcting me.

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revdisk In reply to KSKSoldat [2007-05-18 00:55:46 +0000 UTC]

They are very similiar. The M249 is based off the Minimi, but with a couple of modications. FN makes the M249, BTW

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KSKSoldat In reply to revdisk [2007-05-18 06:58:58 +0000 UTC]

Ahh....well thanks for the info man! Now my paper will go much better for sure.

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Bastiii [2007-05-06 23:24:42 +0000 UTC]

Rate of Fire: 1150 rounds/minute (+/- 150)

almost the same rate like the MG42


it traces back to the MG42, a German WW2 era machine gun, but has some small improvements, can use NATO links, is somewhat lighter, and is adapted to fire 7.62 x 51 mm NATO standard rounds

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revdisk In reply to Bastiii [2007-05-07 22:14:09 +0000 UTC]

Except for being rechambered and a plastic stock, it's virtually identical.

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StuntmaninParadise [2007-05-04 11:24:48 +0000 UTC]

why does a GI shot a german machine gun???

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revdisk In reply to StuntmaninParadise [2007-05-07 22:13:11 +0000 UTC]

Because I was shooting with the German army, I think that'd be obvious.

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MelvWolfe In reply to revdisk [2010-04-07 06:33:17 +0000 UTC]

Some people don't get the obvious...

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armyotaku [2006-03-10 14:56:53 +0000 UTC]

ah, some things were just done right the first time. like the browning .50 or the m1911. those two never go out of style, so why would this?

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revdisk In reply to armyotaku [2006-03-10 20:12:28 +0000 UTC]

Actually, both the Browning M2 and the M1911 went through changes. That's why the last variant of the 1911 was called the M1911A1, before it was ditched for the M9. M2 has made a ton of changes, due to the fact that it has internals that look like a giant Swiss watch.

But still, the M2 and 1911 are very close to me. I own and carry a Rock Island M1911A1. Not fancy, but solid as a rock.

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smoczyduch [2005-10-12 18:24:41 +0000 UTC]

does the mg-3 have the same firing rate that the WWII version had?

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revdisk In reply to smoczyduch [2006-01-15 08:42:51 +0000 UTC]

Close enough. I don't remember it off the top of my head, but the modern version had an insanely high fire rate.

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skyfyre In reply to revdisk [2009-05-14 10:29:21 +0000 UTC]

no, due to NATO-Standards the fire rate had to be reduced.

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revdisk In reply to skyfyre [2009-06-24 21:21:44 +0000 UTC]

It was still pretty high. I fired a good number of the other NATO MG's, mostly variations of the FN's MAG-58. The cyclic rate of the MG-3 seemed higher. I'll admit, I'm not an expert on the MG-3, just going off memory

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skyfyre In reply to revdisk [2009-06-28 14:15:44 +0000 UTC]

The MG-3 is limited to about 1200 rounds/ min the original MG-42 was able to fire 1500 rounds/ min. These values are, of course, only theory.
Nevertheless its an awesome MG, easy to maintain and reliable.

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DarkWizard83 [2005-08-28 05:59:15 +0000 UTC]

It's amazing that this is essentially the same gun from over 60 years ago, yet its still widely used today. It was just that good a design, I guess. Nice photo.

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revdisk In reply to DarkWizard83 [2006-01-15 08:45:17 +0000 UTC]

Not so surprising. If it works very well, why change? New does not necessarily mean better. Military uses a lot of older technology because it bloody well works, unlike a lot of modern high tech (overpriced) pieces of junk that break at the drop of a hat.

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RandomTaiwanese [2005-07-06 01:47:21 +0000 UTC]

isnt this MG 42 for WWII era?
or is this just the improved version?

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revdisk In reply to RandomTaiwanese [2005-07-06 04:28:16 +0000 UTC]

The MG3 is essentially the same weapon as the MG42 with a few minor changes. Updated version, I suppose.

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