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Published: 2008-01-13 18:47:09 +0000 UTC; Views: 12679; Favourites: 129; Downloads: 270
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Description In another style, for the archer's competition of this year's Blain medieval faire:

-gambeson (3kg)
-lamellar armour (15kg)
-mongol bow, arrows (1.2kg)
-short sword (1kg)

Total: 20.2kg

I was the only mad guy participating in armour... 4 hours of archery under the sun, I WAS tired after that!
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Comments: 22

Alfrov [2013-07-02 20:27:36 +0000 UTC]

Dude, that's badass.

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OokamiCloud [2013-01-17 07:43:40 +0000 UTC]

wow, awesome, I want a costume like that

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theSwordBrush [2011-09-30 07:19:47 +0000 UTC]

Веселят меня такие парни-реконструкторы в КУЯГах по колено и ниже...Реконструкция всадника БЕЗ лошади...Я плачу просто

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Caradepato [2011-06-29 19:43:48 +0000 UTC]

Awesome. Just... Awesome.

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sabiss In reply to Caradepato [2011-06-29 22:54:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I improved the armour and equipment since...

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Caradepato In reply to sabiss [2011-06-30 12:45:18 +0000 UTC]

What materials do you use? I am trying to make a rus-style lammelar set with cour boulli or however you spell that, and do you have any reccomendations?

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sabiss In reply to Caradepato [2011-06-30 13:18:56 +0000 UTC]

My armor is of steel, laced with leather.

If you're making a Rus lamellar in cuir bouilli, I recommend the following:

Cut your plates and drill the holes before you "boil" them. When you boil them, I recommend wax or animal glue or a gelatin-water mix. It will harden the plates much better than water.
If you use wax, it'll make your plates waterproof, but waxy to the touch and make a sort of glossy surface.
glue or gelatin will harden the plates even more, and they'll keep their natural leather color, although in a darker tone. It'll also be easier to tint or mark with engraving tools if you use glue. On the other hand, they'll be water sensitive, and might become sticky if they're wet. I recommend lacquering them or waxing them afterwards, or simply greasing them.

Also, in any case, you should not "boil" them at more than 60°Celsius. 40°C would be even better if using glue/gelatin. It's more of a soaking than a boiling. If you go beyond that temperature, the leather will shrink too much and will also become very brittle, like an old crumble left on the kitchen table for a week
The leather should be thick (4mm cow or pig), vegetable tanned leather (not chrome tanned).
Also, as you "boil" the leather, it will shrink a little. Keep that in mind when you cut out your plates and bore the holes in the "raw" leather.

For lacing, natural leather laces should do fine. If you used metal plates, then I would recommend something sturdier, like rawhide or silk laces (if you can afford it). The metal plates being mobile, they tend to cut the lacings, like a pair of scissor blades.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your project.

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Caradepato In reply to sabiss [2011-06-30 13:40:38 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. Ill post it up once ive finished

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drewthefan123 [2011-03-08 18:18:25 +0000 UTC]

Dude, where did you find that Mongol bow??? Is it functional?

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sabiss In reply to drewthefan123 [2011-03-08 20:28:20 +0000 UTC]

Hey!

I got the bow from an Hungarian bowyer, his name is Csaba Grozer, his website:
[link]

There is another hungarian bowyer who is also very well reknowned for his recurve bows: Lajos Kassai:
[link]

They both do modern bows with a recurve look, and also real wood/horn/sinew bows (but way more expensive), all are functional. I regularly shoot with mine.

I am also in the process of making my own wood/horn/sinew bow... We'll see if I can come up with something!

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fireflyguardian In reply to sabiss [2016-10-16 17:15:56 +0000 UTC]

and the boots?

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Hillfighter [2010-03-11 06:23:18 +0000 UTC]

nice,
you got a horse too?

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sabiss In reply to Hillfighter [2010-03-11 08:36:17 +0000 UTC]

Nope, but friends of mine do, I sometimes ride with them...

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Dapxad [2010-01-27 05:04:36 +0000 UTC]

Nice hardware. especially boots u wore are looking exactly like how mongol boots are.But sword looks a bit different.It shoudn be straight

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sabiss In reply to Dapxad [2010-01-27 09:41:52 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, actually, the boots are from Mongolia... But they're modern boots, historical ones usually do not have an upturned toe, and some are much lighter than these, especially amongst the Ilkhans.

As for the sword, I now have a curved one... Only a slight curve, like the ones found in Russia, Ukraine and the middle east. They look very much like the ones in the illustrations from the Jami al-Tawarikh and the Shah Nameh of the Mongol era...

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Re-Animatorian [2009-12-28 11:58:49 +0000 UTC]

Amazing work! It's a shame I'll never be able to participate as a mongol heavy cavalryman anywhere.

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Test-Grave [2009-08-20 15:54:44 +0000 UTC]

You re looking great man, did you make your armor by yourself?

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sabiss In reply to Test-Grave [2009-08-20 16:42:04 +0000 UTC]

Indeed I did... Not very complicated really, and not all that long to do.

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tod309 [2009-02-10 21:34:40 +0000 UTC]

I'm making something like this out of cardboard. It's in my gallery.

I have got to get me a bow like that.

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sabiss In reply to tod309 [2009-02-12 09:52:50 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure it'll be lighter than my iron one...
I saw the parts you did, good job, and good luck for the rest...

My next armour project will be a greco-scythian armour of 4th century BC. But I have other projects to complete before I even start that one.

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piotrasss [2008-10-21 09:50:35 +0000 UTC]

mongols dont get tired easily though

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kitek14 [2008-01-13 18:55:28 +0000 UTC]

It's hard to sand for 4 h with 20 kg on your back

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