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Tuntalm [2016-04-24 17:42:42 +0000 UTC]
Hello there ! It is me again, on behalf of 's tag game !
My tag word was "water', so I obviously chose a piece with some water. I particularly like this one, because it conveys a lot of different ideas. At first, I see violence with the red water, which can symbolise blood or death. The chains can be a source of pain for the character, and may retain him in his violent state of mind. The white angel is a sort of "open door" to a better world, and he looks at it with sad eyes because he knows he can't escape his chains.
Alright, let's talk about the good points of your piece !
- What a powerful scene ! I like the way everything seems so dark, compared to the little angel. Even the character, with his rather fair skin, seems to be dark. I think his expression is responsible for the effect. I like the fact the angel isn't a big one, full of details, but a tiny angel (maybe a girl ?), and let the viewer imagine what he wants to see.
Personal impression : I feel like the angel may be seen as a ghost, maybe his wife or something, and is here to remind him of what he lost. Maybe this ghost is dead because of him.. I don't know.
- I like the diversity of emotions portrayed by the character : his red hair seems to remind us of his violent mind, but his sad stare shows the regrets he may have. The fact he holds softly the chain could symbolise the fact he accepted his situation, and contemplate silently the life he could have had. The necklace he wears is very mysterious to me... Its shape looks like a tear or something. Maybe it is a part of his punition : even when the angel is not here, you will always be reminded of what you have done or something.
- I like the fact the lake doesn't have any limits. It seems to be a sea of blood or of tears, and the character cannot escape it. The fact there isn't much landscape or elements appart of the character and the chains is very pleasing, we can concentrate on the scene without being afraid of looking for the hidden details which will change everything. I think putting a lot of details in emotional pieces can be bothering, because the viewer cannot choose if he has to follow his thoughts and look for everything in the piece, or if he wants to let everything go and empathize with the character's state of mind. So, good job !
Now, the points to improve...
- The character's body seems a bit geometrical. I don't think a body shape can be such a "square" shape. I think you should enlarge the top of his torso and shoulders, and vary the thickness of his arms. I tried to find a reference with a thin torso, because as I can see, you didn't want to create a muscled man : madamenyx.deviantart.com/art/M…
- The chains near the angel are weird : they aren't attached to anything or to the ceiling like the other ones, and seem a bit "out of place". I think creating some fluidity with the chains (curving them a bit) could help. And add a part which goes to the ceiling. It will be less confusing, in my opinion.
- The other chains (the real ones) aren't "correct" or realistic. As you can see here : noxiestock.deviantart.com/art/… , the chain is turning a bit around an axe, and the different elements aren't too regular. If that makes any sense. Try to curve the chains and make them "curling" (I don't know how to say that ^^) in order to make them more realistic.
Overall, you did a great job with the general structure of the piece, but you have some problems with the "realistic" shapes and anatomy. Work on that, and it will be perfect
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !
Alright, your turn to comment on UrsusVanDraco 's gallery, with the word "explosive". Good luck !
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Zitruseis In reply to Tuntalm [2016-05-09 12:32:04 +0000 UTC]
Sorry for the late reply, I've been a bit busy lately. ^^
Thank you for your thorough feedback and thoughts, I really appreciate it! I particularly enjoyed reading your deep interpretation.
If you're interested in some information about the character and the meaning:
While Sadas is not actually a violent character, you are right that there is quite a lot of darkness in him. First of all, he uses blood magic, which is not a bad thing in itself, but it is a forbidden art and regarded as evil and corrupt in most cultures of his home world, making him a monster in the eyes of many. Learning it in the first place is one of his regrets, since he had to flee from home because of it.
The "angel" is supposed to be a ghost indeed, the ghost of his lover. Her death was not his fault, but he blames himself for it. Also, when it happened, he realized that he had never really known her, that is why I drew her small and vague in the background. The necklace belonged to her, it was a gift he gave her long ago and now wears as a keepsake.
On top of it all, he suffers from rather severe depression, so the scenery can also be seen as a metaphor for this illness: being in a dark place, seeing no solutions or ends, every step slowed and hindered by thick water, clinging to familiar things that are actually unhealthy... these are things a lot people who suffer from it report, so I thought it's only fitting.
Thanks a lot for pointing out what to improve, too.
Male anatomy has always been much more difficult for me than female, so it's always good to hear suggestions and see some references.
You're also right about the chains. I don't draw them often, but your comment on them is very helpful and will surely be of use for me in the future!
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Tuntalm In reply to Zitruseis [2016-05-09 17:16:27 +0000 UTC]
No worries at all I am glad I could help !
I am happy to see I fall quite right with my interpretation ^^ Not in details, of course, but it is still a good thing since it means you succeeded in conveying your message I perfectly see the depressed side of your piece, with the sadness of the character. I think the ghost isn't in the background, but seems very close to us. Maybe making it a bit smaller would help ?
I like the fact he fled from his hometown, but still has a reminder of his power with the blood pool. It is very clever !
Yes, human anatomy is always a struggle, with its weird shapes and all ! I think using some references will help to seize every detail.
Regarding the chains, I can understand the twisting effect was a detail for you. But it "caught my eye" in a sense, because it was unnatural. So, giving them some curves and all will certainly help !
If you have any additional question, I am here for you
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CMBaggs [2016-01-29 18:54:53 +0000 UTC]
Lovely work. Love how you rendered the hair floating in the blood and the detail of the chains.
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Sabehlra In reply to Zitruseis [2015-07-27 04:06:53 +0000 UTC]
Ahh.... that's too bad. Sounds like a great group
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ricks1556 [2015-04-01 19:21:30 +0000 UTC]
love the blood
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U23Art [2015-03-21 18:30:37 +0000 UTC]
Aw man, so good lookin.
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U23Art In reply to Zitruseis [2015-03-21 22:52:22 +0000 UTC]
Good enthusiasm.
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starscreamnemesis [2015-03-19 20:47:05 +0000 UTC]
Sadas <3
Eigentlich hat er all das was wir ihm zumuten gar nicht verdient xD
Man will ihn lieber behüten und mit dem goldkehlchen in einen Käfig voller Watte packen.
Vielleicht macht das gerade seinen Reiz aus. Und ich komm nicht umhin, gierig auf seinen Körper zu starren. Er ist so mager <3
Sieht nicht mehr wie ein Kasten mit Kopf aus und erst die Hand! Ich wusste gar nicht dass ich so auf Hände und krallen stehe xD
Die Kette um seinen Hals ist ein bitter süßer Blickfänger.
Alles in allem bin ich unglaublich begeistert. Und habe einen neuen Desktop Hintergrund xD
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ThaIssing [2015-03-19 16:22:05 +0000 UTC]
ohhh you finished the present, it looks so pretty I love the shading!! ;u;
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ThaIssing In reply to Zitruseis [2015-03-19 20:16:21 +0000 UTC]
(you not the only one who needs practice at that. all my men looks so girly ;A; )
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ThaIssing In reply to Zitruseis [2015-03-19 21:04:59 +0000 UTC]
yeah, that's the same thing that happens here. I have drawn so many men and my family and friends say "ohh she is pretty" )':
now I want a sandwich >:
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Zitruseis In reply to ThaIssing [2015-03-19 21:17:53 +0000 UTC]
Yes, same here. Still happens sometimes.
And when once when I tried to draw beard stubbles, my brother commented the guy looked like a transvestite. -_-
Sandwiches are great!
Sorry for making you hungry. >_<
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ThaIssing In reply to Zitruseis [2015-03-19 21:47:57 +0000 UTC]
dangit bro. xD my brother thinks it's a bother to look at my drawings all the time or at least I think he might think that xD
I survive I got frutti something. they are yummi!
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ThaIssing In reply to Zitruseis [2015-03-19 22:34:53 +0000 UTC]
my brother just ain't interested in manga so he always seems so happy when I make something outside of it. x'D
uuuuuh Pizza!!! *Q*
apples are good. very good. we got a lot of oranges. both my mom and dad bought them home lol
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XxcyberalienxX [2015-03-19 13:45:01 +0000 UTC]
I love the way you draw the water...or is it blood?
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Lirrena [2015-03-19 12:35:54 +0000 UTC]
I really like the white silhouette, and the blood looks good, your colouring is simple but very accurate. Nice work.
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Lirrena In reply to Zitruseis [2015-03-19 13:15:51 +0000 UTC]
No problem. Great idea with ghost, and yes, the result looks awesome. Keep up the good work ^^
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debNise [2015-03-19 11:21:21 +0000 UTC]
Wow well done! Love the hair and the nails look amazing!
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