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Description I still haven't managed to decide which creature I want for Norway

Him as a Huldrekarl would be pretty interesting because of that hollow back design, but in terms of story I can't think of any interesting role for him to play
But as a Nokken (stuck in the horse shape) would be easier to fit in the story, but it wouldn't be very creative either

Any suggestions?
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Comments: 66

KennP [2015-09-21 12:09:32 +0000 UTC]

Traditionally Hulders were women with cow tails that would lure young men into the mountain where they would be trapped, where did the big hole in the back come from? Also NΓΈkkens were usally water spirits that would play theire music to lure people into the water and trap them in water vegitation to drown them, where did the horse come from? Not to complain, just wondering because i am Norwegian and know these legends, please reply. Thank you

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Birvan In reply to KennP [2015-09-26 20:06:20 +0000 UTC]

I came across several sources that said many Huldras have a hollow back, along with the cow or fox tail
As for theΒ NΓΈkken many sources say they're shape shifters and one of their forms is a white or misty looking horse

But I admit my knowledge can only go as far as the internet takes me, so any input is valuable

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Marmot-of-Doom [2014-09-12 17:10:36 +0000 UTC]

Nokkens remind me of Kelpies, are they somehow related?

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Renee-Niels In reply to Marmot-of-Doom [2015-04-14 03:03:52 +0000 UTC]

Actually, it's the Kelpie that's the horse. A Nokken is more humanoid, taking the form of a fiddle player to lure people into the water, sort of like a male, Nordic, landlocked siren.

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Birvan In reply to Marmot-of-Doom [2014-09-12 18:40:32 +0000 UTC]

I think so

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ellymango [2014-09-11 18:54:38 +0000 UTC]

I feel like the only one who'd vote for the Huldrekarl I dunno, I think a hollow-backed pixie creature seems to fit Norway more than a magical-horse beast. Though whichever one you prefer I guess uwu/

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Birvan In reply to ellymango [2014-09-11 19:00:21 +0000 UTC]

Considering he's already considered to have a strong relationship with magic it would make sense not to change as much

It's so hard to pick Xp

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ellymango In reply to Birvan [2014-09-11 19:11:35 +0000 UTC]

Yeah :/ Whichever you prefer uwu/

By the way, out of interest, what kind of a creature is England? I don't think I know of any human/rabbit creatures!

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Birvan In reply to ellymango [2014-09-11 19:16:50 +0000 UTC]

He's technically a rabbit wood sprite. I cheated a bit because I was trying to stay as close to canon creature designs (England with bunny ears) when I first created the story
But after some digging he does have a lot of rabbit and hare stories, so it kind of fits

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ellymango In reply to Birvan [2014-09-11 19:34:26 +0000 UTC]

Heh, thanks The more you know...

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Birvan In reply to ellymango [2014-09-11 19:55:58 +0000 UTC]

I need to create character sheets with that info...

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jhelisapoh [2014-09-11 01:01:12 +0000 UTC]

I would prefer the Nokken design actually ^^
Your art is amazing as always!
I know a Norwegian mythical creature called Fenrir. I don't really know much about it but here's the wikipedia anyways XD en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

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Birvan In reply to jhelisapoh [2014-09-11 08:41:36 +0000 UTC]

Seems pretty much most people just like (creepy) horses XD

Personally myth creatures tied to the Gods doesn't appeal to me, especially when they exist on more than one country (it could sound like I consider that country more important than the others). Also Fenrir is a specific individual, which makes me shy away further

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jhelisapoh In reply to Birvan [2014-09-11 12:35:41 +0000 UTC]

Yeah XD
oh, I see

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KuromiAkumura [2014-09-10 19:27:27 +0000 UTC]

these myths seem so cool! i really feel like researching them :3

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Birvan In reply to KuromiAkumura [2014-09-10 19:44:58 +0000 UTC]

That's one of the things I want to get people to do, learn more about less commonly known myths XD

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KuromiAkumura In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 20:26:18 +0000 UTC]

oohh xD well it is working! but i already know what a lindworm is Β 

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Birvan In reply to KuromiAkumura [2014-09-10 20:33:38 +0000 UTC]

But I have plenty, plenty more going around. Just check my gallery folder

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KuromiAkumura In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 20:45:41 +0000 UTC]

mkay~!!

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vikon [2014-09-10 19:08:03 +0000 UTC]

the horse on the right reminds me of a picture my mother did when i was 5

she called it nightmere

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Birvan In reply to vikon [2014-09-10 19:44:35 +0000 UTC]

From what I read the nightmare also exists in the norwegian lore (though it doesn't look like a horse at all)

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vikon In reply to Birvan [2014-09-12 22:06:39 +0000 UTC]

Really!? That I did not know!

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Birvan In reply to vikon [2014-09-18 12:14:12 +0000 UTC]

It just takes a bit of researching

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vikon In reply to Birvan [2014-09-18 16:29:35 +0000 UTC]

yeah^_^

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EmeraldAngel2 [2014-09-10 18:51:37 +0000 UTC]

OAe'Β 

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Birvan In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-09-10 19:03:33 +0000 UTC]

??

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EmeraldAngel2 In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 19:07:16 +0000 UTC]

Shocked eye twitch? I made it up.

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Birvan In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-09-10 19:41:27 +0000 UTC]

Lol, but why? XD

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EmeraldAngel2 In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 19:52:01 +0000 UTC]

Because these two designs freak me out! I mean, I horse with fangs and girls is pretty creepy.

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Birvan In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-09-10 20:03:30 +0000 UTC]

Point takenΒ 

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EmeraldAngel2 In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 21:24:58 +0000 UTC]

Plus, I have a feeling that both aren't very happy tales. ^_^'

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Birvan In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-09-10 22:11:02 +0000 UTC]

I think it depends a lot. Some are nice, others are vicious murdersΒ 

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EmeraldAngel2 In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 23:22:33 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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GuloBorealis [2014-09-10 18:49:44 +0000 UTC]

why not both? aΒ Huldrekarl that can turn into a Nokken?

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Birvan In reply to GuloBorealis [2014-09-10 19:03:28 +0000 UTC]

Because he won't be able to use shapeshifting. It would take longer to learn than the story would last

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GuloBorealis In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 19:20:34 +0000 UTC]

yeah, I got that. Nokken then!

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Birvan In reply to GuloBorealis [2014-09-10 19:41:15 +0000 UTC]

Why?

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GuloBorealis In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 22:30:54 +0000 UTC]

I've got a thing for carnivorous equines, mostly.

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Birvan In reply to GuloBorealis [2014-09-10 22:34:37 +0000 UTC]

Heh, makes sense XD

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GuloBorealis In reply to GuloBorealis [2014-09-10 18:50:53 +0000 UTC]

oh wait, just read the comments, nevermind.

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TheBrigeeda [2014-09-10 17:58:13 +0000 UTC]

Nokken if only because angry water horses with fangs are awesome.

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Birvan In reply to TheBrigeeda [2014-09-10 18:01:37 +0000 UTC]

I'll have to see if it fits well into the story *but yeah, scary horse is awesome by default* XD

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XiaNumber14 [2014-09-10 17:18:27 +0000 UTC]

Well, if the Nokken would be easier to work with story wise, then I'd say go with that. But I do like the Huldrekarl design as well....tough choices.

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Birvan In reply to XiaNumber14 [2014-09-10 17:41:32 +0000 UTC]

Exactly, they're both great design choices Xp

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XiaNumber14 In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 18:46:25 +0000 UTC]

They really are.

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PuffinPixel [2014-09-10 17:15:36 +0000 UTC]

omg I really like both of them <3
He looks good as either, why is this so hard ><

Damn, that horse is cute <3

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Birvan In reply to PuffinPixel [2014-09-10 17:40:42 +0000 UTC]

That's the problem I have with nearly every character

Of course, the better to lure and drown you with XD

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PuffinPixel In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 18:50:49 +0000 UTC]

NΓΈkken would be very cute and nice if he eventually learns to shapeshift^^
But dayum, your huldrekarl version is really nice lookinnnggg ><

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Birvan In reply to PuffinPixel [2014-09-10 19:05:11 +0000 UTC]

I'll probably have to check which myth I should pick for Iceland first. That should help decide the best group dynamic for the story

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PuffinPixel In reply to Birvan [2014-09-10 19:08:06 +0000 UTC]

good idea^^ I look forward to see what you find!

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