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Description Original design for a small church, my first one. Church building is a pretty big business where I live. Lots of new people coming in means the churches have been expanding. New "Mega-churches" have sprung up. They are more like auditoriums with rock bands!

This a basically a very traditional church format, with emphasis on fairly wide aisles and a clear span of at least 50 feet across, using modern "glu-lam" laminated beams arranged into trusses at 10' intervals. Stained glass might be "earthy" green tones to emphasize connection to nature. Most important feature is good proportions and beauty of front elevation. The stairs to the top of the steeple would be steel for strength in case many churchgoers go up into the steeple after a service. Also, the stairs would taper in a bit, somewhat challenging to build.

Front elevation is a tiny sketch from my sketchbook, so it is a little rough looking. Floor plan executed a little bigger at scale 1/16"=one foot. Both drawings in pencil, semi-transparent vellum over graph paper for the plan.
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Comments: 35

HoshiBlue21 [2013-03-30 04:51:12 +0000 UTC]

All that details and explanation!

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Built4ever In reply to HoshiBlue21 [2013-03-30 12:13:56 +0000 UTC]

Pretty simple plan really...

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HoshiBlue21 In reply to Built4ever [2013-04-03 05:19:44 +0000 UTC]

For me is complicated believe me!
I don't know how to start, what advice can you give me?

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Built4ever In reply to HoshiBlue21 [2013-04-03 14:27:48 +0000 UTC]

Plan of classic churches are symmetrical, with rows of pews. Altar at the end. Width of church governed by how much you can span with beams/trusses, etc. Simplest floor plans form a cross. There can be side entries or side chapels in the short arms of the cross. Steeples ad towers can be at crossing point of cross (over the center, at ends of short sides of cross, or at long end, at the main entry, where mine is. Gothic cathedrals have three entry doors (Holy Trinity) and two steeple towers on either side.

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HoshiBlue21 In reply to Built4ever [2013-04-06 05:12:00 +0000 UTC]

I have found in some books plans of churches and look very nice and easy to practice maybe if I put myself to practice more and look for also castle plans, and houses I will improve

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MrEd301 [2013-03-29 02:41:52 +0000 UTC]

I prefer the small quiet churches like this to the auditoriums that seem to be so popular today.
The steeple reminds me of the old Greenville railway station that was torn down in 1988.

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Built4ever In reply to MrEd301 [2013-03-29 03:30:10 +0000 UTC]

HMMMMM don't remember that one. What's that one out near you, on 123 I think? Massive operation in Easley.

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MrEd301 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-30 16:38:50 +0000 UTC]

You mean the baby BiLo Center across from the new Wal-Mart. Yeah, It's rediculous.
The old Greenville Southern Railway station used to be right next to the Amtrack depot at the end of West Washington St.

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Built4ever In reply to MrEd301 [2013-03-30 16:51:50 +0000 UTC]

Greer and Clemson have decent stations.

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MrEd301 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-31 02:19:14 +0000 UTC]

[link]
I took this photo about a month before it was demolished..

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Built4ever In reply to MrEd301 [2013-03-31 02:36:51 +0000 UTC]

What a shame.

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MrEd301 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-31 02:59:51 +0000 UTC]

I am trying to build a model of it.. Both in HO scale and 1/4" scale with selective compression.

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Built4ever In reply to MrEd301 [2013-03-31 04:59:42 +0000 UTC]

1/4 inch scale is huge, isn't it?

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MrEd301 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-31 16:04:23 +0000 UTC]

The main building at 1/4" scale would be rather large, about 30 inches long and 12" wide. I'll do some selective compression on it to bring it down to about 18 to 20 inches long and about 9" wide, but still keep the spirit of the architecture.

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Built4ever In reply to MrEd301 [2013-03-31 21:48:28 +0000 UTC]

I'm taking my long lost uncle for a tour of Downtown on Wed. Hard to explain all these changes. Are you actively building these RR models all the time, several days a week?

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MrEd301 In reply to Built4ever [2013-04-01 04:21:18 +0000 UTC]

I work on models in between other projects.. Eventually they'll go on a model railroad.

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ShadowRaven2006 [2013-03-29 01:26:21 +0000 UTC]

I like it very much. I am of the oppinion there are too many 'mega churches' and not enough peaceful quiet country churches in the world. God may be at both, but I know I would feel far more at peace in a place like this.

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Built4ever In reply to ShadowRaven2006 [2013-03-29 02:09:28 +0000 UTC]

Yes, maybe people don't want to feel at peace. Maybe they just want to see a rock band and listen to a guy talk about his addictions for an hour. That's what I saw when I went to megachurch nearby.

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ShadowRaven2006 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-31 02:36:10 +0000 UTC]

well, if that's what they want, there are plenty of options available. It's not for me though, not by a long shot.

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stargate525 [2013-03-28 16:50:02 +0000 UTC]

The rear is more traditional, though you could probably cram one into the choir there.

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Built4ever In reply to stargate525 [2013-03-28 19:01:45 +0000 UTC]

You mean a pipe organ?

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stargate525 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-28 19:04:28 +0000 UTC]

Yes. this was supposed to be a reply to slowdog. Dunno why it posted alone.

As a person who's been around a lot of churches... you're also missing any sort of storage solutions or administrative areas for the pastor and secretary.

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Built4ever In reply to stargate525 [2013-03-28 20:38:26 +0000 UTC]

Yes granted, additional things will be additionalized he he plus, many differences according to specific Christian faiths...

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Goldentongued [2013-03-28 15:56:00 +0000 UTC]

What kind of resources would this take to build? I only ask because looking at the floorplan made me think of Sydney Poitier's film "Lilies of the Field"---could this be built by mendicant nuns and a determined handyman?

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Built4ever In reply to Goldentongued [2013-03-28 19:01:16 +0000 UTC]

Heh, wonderful film, eh? The beams that make up the trusses would have to be custom manufactured, so some substantial cost there and a crane needed for install. But it's a relatively simple structure otherwise, maybe not too expensive. For a hand-built job, I would design it different.

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Crafter-Jack [2013-03-28 14:33:59 +0000 UTC]

What a well made tax haven. Will there be magic shows?

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Built4ever In reply to Crafter-Jack [2013-03-28 15:51:48 +0000 UTC]

It IS a magic show! Don't you get it? Let's build it in Cyprus.

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Crafter-Jack In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-28 20:08:22 +0000 UTC]

AWESOME!

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slowdog294 [2013-03-28 14:25:03 +0000 UTC]

Where is the pipe organ?

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Built4ever In reply to slowdog294 [2013-03-28 15:52:41 +0000 UTC]

How should we lay it out? At the back with a second level loft? At the front?

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slowdog294 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-28 17:34:12 +0000 UTC]

If Catholic, in the back. If Protestant, in the front.

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Built4ever In reply to slowdog294 [2013-03-28 18:58:17 +0000 UTC]

Only you would know that. I was brought up Catholic but that fact escaped me. I think we should seriously put one in there. What happens with Methodists and Episcopalians? Front?

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slowdog294 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-28 19:05:09 +0000 UTC]

Catholic houses of worship have the organ and choir lofted in the chancel at the rear of the sanctuary. All other hopuses of God have the organ in the front. Catholic churches heavily decorate the organ cases with an ornate facade hiding the pipe chambers. Protestant churches put the pipes on either side of the dias/pulpit area and they are not always evident with decorative facade pipes. Most times, the pipes are simply installed behind a decorative grillwork or in some cases, curtains. Catholics want the organ to be SEEN as well as HEARD. Protestants are all happy clappy and the organ rarely gets played nowdays. Shame...

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Built4ever In reply to slowdog294 [2013-03-28 20:39:26 +0000 UTC]

Aha! Thanks! Now I got it. Haven't designed a pipe organ yet.

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slowdog294 In reply to Built4ever [2013-03-29 14:05:28 +0000 UTC]

Click this [link] to visit my website about pipe organs. It might help in the design process.

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