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Description "He has a mind of fire and a heart of ice."
- Bertrand Barère de Vieuzac on Saint-Just

"It is a thing unheard of that a man should be as cold as ice and as bold as fire." - Bossuet on Enjolras

Because in the Convention, we know Enjolras would have been Saint-Just.

SJ is based on the Prudhon portrait, obviously.
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Glamtaire [2014-01-10 12:10:30 +0000 UTC]

*screams*
*double screams*
*screams xINFINITY*
THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE
I HAVE BOTH ENJOLRAS AND SAINT-JUST ON MY BEDROOM WALL ABOVE MY BED, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GIVE ME PERMISSION TO PRINT THIS OFF AND ADD IT TO THE COLLECTION? REALLY THOUGH I LOVE THIS SO MUCH I LOVE YOU
*expires*

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TheRandomPhangirl [2012-09-30 08:34:07 +0000 UTC]

Saint-Just AND Enjolras? In one painting?! *le squeak*
That awkward moment when you fangirl twice as much....

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ColonelDespard In reply to TheRandomPhangirl [2012-10-05 09:41:07 +0000 UTC]

Chuckling at that! Thank you

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TheBrassGlass [2011-10-30 08:50:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh, goodness...

The beauty of this is...

FFFFFffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

I can't. ;___;

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EntirelyInsane [2010-11-16 03:21:20 +0000 UTC]

SAINT-JUST. Oooooh.
Someday, I shall know just as much as you do about all of this. Someday.
(hard, though, when all you've got is the public library that's hard-pressed to supply even a book on the French Revolution in general, much less a specific person.)
But wow, Saint-Just looks just like he does in the portrait.

...But I feel, somehow, that Enjolras was more humane than Saint-Just...or is it just me?

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ColonelDespard In reply to EntirelyInsane [2010-11-23 02:49:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I'm still learning all the time as well, and sometimes feel so inadequate among my more knowledgeable friends. And yes, I believe Enjolras is more humane than S-J. Although I do believe he would have voted for the death of the king.

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EntirelyInsane In reply to ColonelDespard [2010-11-24 02:26:14 +0000 UTC]

Ha, yes. And it makes me feel rather sad sometimes because I haven't got many friends who enjoy talking about such things (or even know enough about said things to talk about them in the first place; my best friend, for all her brilliance, can't bring herself to like and/or remember much at all of history in general, so whenever I start gushing about a particular she'll just kind of nod and say "Suuure."), so I never have a chance to learn more and discuss more and debate more. Gosh, I'd love to debate more. I'd probably not be very good, but it'd still be fun. And then I'd improve, too. As of now, I just read stuff online and subsequently feel like an uninformed idiot.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. Definitely the death of the king - Enjolras seems to have that radical idealism - but more humane. I mean, I hope he wouldn't be quite as enthusiastic with sending completely innocent people to the guillotine. Although I can see him, in his idealism, glossing over the (lack of) humanity and sending perhaps more people than necessary, for the perusal of said idealism. Sort of like in the brick when he insists on killing that one soldier. You drew that scene, didn’t you? That was Enjolras’s β€œemo tear moment”, as you phrased it. XD

Ah, I’m just ranting now…

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saphirewings [2010-07-01 11:25:09 +0000 UTC]

I should comment it long time ago. I love this picture ^^
I like the mirror effect! Nice concept

And one thing has always fascinated me: Why did Hugo choose Saint-Just to base a figure of Enjolras on? I know it supposed to be a tribute to each young revolutionary that died during revolution, but they had much more in common. It's curious that from the range of revolutionary figures it was S-J who intrugued people mostly, although he was revolutionary of secondary importance!

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ColonelDespard In reply to saphirewings [2010-07-16 01:45:19 +0000 UTC]

Enjolras represents the logic of Revolution, so I suppose if we look at how Saint-Just constructed his speeches - e.g. his arguments of the execution of the king - it does make sense. There are some differences - e.g. Enjolras would not define those who didn't join the revolution as external to the Republic and therefore bereft of its protection, as he has a more overarching view of humanity as all his brothers.

Have you read Hugo's "Quatrevingt-treize"? It gives valuable insight into how he saw the Revolution. Marat, Robespierre and Danton all appear as characters, and while Saint-Just doesn't have a speaking role, he is referred to as an example of one extreme end of the revolutionary spectrum. And Enjolras is extreme.

Curiously, while Enjolras with his angelic good looks fits in with one view of how Saint-Just appeared, in the physical description of Saint-Just in "Quatrevingt-treize" he looks nothing like Enjolras.

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saphirewings In reply to ColonelDespard [2010-07-24 16:04:41 +0000 UTC]

I haven't read the book, but I know it from hearsay. You have interesting findings, so I'll eagerly read it

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HistoryKnightLS [2009-10-09 00:13:52 +0000 UTC]

What pretty young princesses these two are! I swear, they look adorable, kind of like two (revolutionary) kittens in a (virtuous) basket, if that does not sound offensive. I like how they are sort of a mirror image of each other-physically and figuratively.

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ColonelDespard In reply to HistoryKnightLS [2009-10-11 09:49:10 +0000 UTC]

Lol! Love it! I bet they have never, ever been thought of as kittenish.

And yes, I was mirroring them. The dark qualities to the SJ portrait made it easier, but they had to be mirrored. I did consider having E's head on SJ's shoulder, but it was a bridge too far...

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Miss-Pixie-Duchess [2009-10-07 20:41:58 +0000 UTC]

Yet another win pic from you. Very well done, and such handsome young men!!!!! :drools:

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ColonelDespard In reply to Miss-Pixie-Duchess [2009-10-07 20:52:04 +0000 UTC]

Cheers Of course, the pretty had nothing to do with why I sketched them. It was...um...a comment on the continuity of Republican schools of thought through the 1789 - 1832 period. Yes. Nothing to do with pretty at all

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Miss-Pixie-Duchess In reply to ColonelDespard [2009-10-07 20:58:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh, geez, I'm sorry! I had no idea!!! Sorry to offend!

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ColonelDespard In reply to Miss-Pixie-Duchess [2009-10-07 21:11:34 +0000 UTC]

Lol! No, I was joking It is, of course, all about the pretty...but we tend to come up with pompous justifications for drawing these kinds of pics (although when we're honest, we know it's because they're just hot).

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Miss-Pixie-Duchess In reply to ColonelDespard [2009-10-07 22:11:12 +0000 UTC]

Phew!

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technicolor-werewolf [2009-10-07 20:29:53 +0000 UTC]

Goooorgeous. Especially S-J.

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ColonelDespard In reply to technicolor-werewolf [2009-10-07 20:37:56 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Poor S-J...so hard to be taken srsly with all that pretty going on. Bet Enjolras had the same problem.

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technicolor-werewolf In reply to ColonelDespard [2009-10-08 01:59:51 +0000 UTC]

Ha, I bet so!

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FlammableWolf [2009-10-07 20:10:13 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is super gorgeous.
Someone else mentioned, but the eyes are great.

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ColonelDespard In reply to FlammableWolf [2009-10-07 20:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I'd love to know what colour SJ's really were - blue is often mentioned, but in the Prudhon portrait they seem dark. Nicely complementing Enjolras, so it seems to me.

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DarthFar [2009-10-07 15:43:00 +0000 UTC]

I've said it at AbaissΓ©, and I'll say it again: very nicely rendered portrait of Enjolras and S-J (who is instantly recognisable, even to someone largely ignorant of French history!). Their eyes are what really do it for this picture.

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ColonelDespard In reply to DarthFar [2009-10-07 20:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I don't know if I'd want to come under those level gazes too often. I'm not all that good at virtue (or the French Republican concept of "vertu"). But so temptingly pretty.

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phangirloftheopera [2009-10-07 14:53:24 +0000 UTC]

It's beautiful!

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ColonelDespard In reply to phangirloftheopera [2009-10-07 20:27:18 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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phangirloftheopera In reply to ColonelDespard [2009-10-07 23:19:11 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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CorvidAngel [2009-10-07 13:28:31 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I LOVE this!! GORGEOUS!! I know I sound goofy, but it amazes me that people know-- and still speak of-- people I used to read about and sometimes even admire...but the point is-- you've dne a fabulous job-- heroic and romantic!! WIN!!

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ColonelDespard In reply to CorvidAngel [2009-10-07 20:27:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you I love making these connections too...there's nothing like someone getting a reference. I had a colleague in London who, on going on on a cold miserable day, responded to my remark about Captain Oates by leaning back in the door and saying "I'm just going out, and may be some time."

They are too pretty, these two.

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