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Description Scene in P7. Lights, camera, render in V6I. Enjoy.
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crossbrace In reply to ??? [2007-02-23 12:22:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for your comment. You did notice the elements I sweated over like the lights and the little postwork details. I assembled this costume out of bits and pieces and you are right about the corset. As my postwork skills, eye, and confidence improve; I hope to catch more of those little things.

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GrIMAge In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-23 12:30:43 +0000 UTC]

Light is often the most challenging but rewarding part of creating a 3d pic - even a not-so-excellent model, when lit up (and down) carefully to create a "mood" for the image, can look very well, and small details are often overlooked, but in my personal opinion they are what can "set apart" two similar renders... and even if something "slip by" our attention... it help us be more careful next time, and thus improve over and over... so... way to go!

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crossbrace In reply to GrIMAge [2007-02-23 12:42:44 +0000 UTC]

Thanks again.

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corset-wench [2007-02-11 01:07:04 +0000 UTC]

well then....figures, eh? definitely a switch-up from the landscapes...and quite the interesting change of pace, i must say!

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crossbrace In reply to corset-wench [2007-02-11 04:56:05 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I'll not forget my landscapes, just need to get some fantasy chicks out of my system first.

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corset-wench In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-11 21:46:26 +0000 UTC]

nothing wrong with a little feminine diversion...

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crossbrace In reply to corset-wench [2007-02-11 23:32:50 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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didi-mc [2007-02-09 16:23:37 +0000 UTC]

ooh I like this, fantastic image!

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crossbrace In reply to didi-mc [2007-02-09 19:05:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much.

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ToriB [2007-02-08 22:58:12 +0000 UTC]

Ooohh! Very nicely done. Fantastic scene and the lighting is very well done.

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crossbrace In reply to ToriB [2007-02-09 05:15:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much.

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RainfeatherPearl [2007-02-08 18:43:00 +0000 UTC]

oh sweetie, you done me proud! this is just an absolute scene i love it very much! i am so proud of you!!!

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crossbrace In reply to RainfeatherPearl [2007-02-09 05:26:13 +0000 UTC]

It's difficult to express what your tutelage and friendship have meant to me. "Everything" is not a strong enough word. Rarely can an aspiring artist point to the one person who, among several mentors, has been the greatest influence, most constant inspiration, ever-patient teacher, remorseless goad, willing helper, and dearest friend. I can.

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RainfeatherPearl In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-09 06:28:48 +0000 UTC]

actually hon, this is all you...technical part of it counts for 10% but everything else is done by you. this is your vision and you made it come to life and boy what a piece it is!!!

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crossbrace In reply to RainfeatherPearl [2007-02-09 13:14:27 +0000 UTC]

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RainfeatherPearl In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-09 14:00:35 +0000 UTC]

now you know the "blah"

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crossbrace In reply to RainfeatherPearl [2007-02-09 14:20:15 +0000 UTC]

OMG, your buddy freyals visited and faved about ten of my images. I've been meaning to watch her for a while, this is the final straw. (Hope I don't begin to suffer from Aussie overload.)

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RainfeatherPearl In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-09 20:44:02 +0000 UTC]

YEAH!!!! aussie, aussie, aussie...oi, oi, oi!!!!

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crossbrace In reply to RainfeatherPearl [2007-02-10 04:47:55 +0000 UTC]

Lord....

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Tasharene [2007-02-08 10:08:53 +0000 UTC]

I have no words.

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crossbrace In reply to Tasharene [2007-02-08 13:20:15 +0000 UTC]

Well I have some words, they are: Thank you for being one of my inspirations. I learn so much from artists like you who are willing to talk with me about their work. Thank you for the fav.

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Tasharene In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-08 14:11:55 +0000 UTC]

My sheer pleasure, dear friend.

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crossbrace In reply to Tasharene [2007-02-09 05:07:54 +0000 UTC]

Awww, sniff... BIG

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markopolio [2007-02-08 02:33:25 +0000 UTC]

I hope you know just how good this is. I may keep up in the technical department, but you absolutely shine in the artistry.

I'm not sure, I think they're begging for their Daily deviations not rations!

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-08 13:36:38 +0000 UTC]

Hah. Thanks. And thank you for the fav. On the technical side: while poser light sets have some real advantages for lighting characters, I just don't know how to make them light a scene as well as I can do with Vue lighting. Vue6I now allows for volumetric to be set for each light; along with the flare, softness, fade, and so on we had in V5I. This toolset alone makes it worth importing some scenes into Vue even if, like this one, there are no actual Vue objects used. It still almost grinds my Vue to a halt to work with poser imports but, probably because of the lower poly count, Vue will render these Poser things quickly even at high quality and larger sizes.

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markopolio In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-08 22:32:05 +0000 UTC]

So, are you importing the scene? Or the characters, etc. and building the scene in Vue? It's darned strange. Since both poser and vue are e-frontier products. You'd think they would work better with each other. I seriously think they released Poser 7 too early. This seems like a beta testing fix.

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-09 05:07:04 +0000 UTC]

Vue is e-on, Poser is e frontier. Vue uses Cornicopia as a marketplace, Poser uses CP. I suspect that most of the items sold by DAZ end up in Poser. There is some kind of tie between Vue and Poser though not as close as DAZ and Bryce. Everything in this scene is composed in poser and imported as a single mesh into Vue. The lighting etc. is done in Vue. I'm working on another, much simpler, poser scene which crashes Vue no matter what I do (even go down to just wire mesh). That scene, eventually will have a Vue rendered background imported for a final poser render. Don't know what else to do.

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markopolio In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-09 12:39:15 +0000 UTC]

I'm off to work. We'll talk more about this later. But there's a section at e-frontier that contains something Vue... I went to e-frontier for some other reason. But I distinctly remember a Vue section...

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-09 13:52:11 +0000 UTC]

I'll check and get back with you.

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markopolio In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-09 22:38:36 +0000 UTC]

[link] They even sell it!

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-10 05:01:03 +0000 UTC]

Yep, they sell it, it's not listed as one of their main products, but it's not listed as third party either. ?? I won't pretend to understand all the links.

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markopolio In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-10 09:50:26 +0000 UTC]

Now you understand my confusion. Think maybe it's some different version that could work different/better with Poser???

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-10 15:23:13 +0000 UTC]

You know, if you look at RDNA, you see software for sale also. I think this is just a case of makers trying to establish as broad a distribution as possible. I notice that the ones I assume to be resellers don't seem to offer the slashed price or trial issues of superseded versions. It is not illegal for manufacturers to guarantee not to undercut their distributor resellers on price. There must be a structure of such agreements in the 3d software industry.

The only software I’ve seen sold under two names is Bryce and I don’t know enough about it to understand the possible differences.

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markopolio In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-10 16:29:34 +0000 UTC]

Hm... Beyond me. Just kind of seemed that there would be a bit of programming compatibility, if they were selling the e-no on the e-f.

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-11 04:46:35 +0000 UTC]

I think they planned there to be, and there is compatability, sort of. Vue is designed to import poser scenes. Did you know that Vue checks to make sure you have Poser installed before it will import the object?

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markopolio In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-11 15:54:43 +0000 UTC]

I'm trying to deal with a few compatibility issues myself at the moment. I've found that new morphs don't actually change the character, or prop. Since my character is rather low poly (22k) I wanted to fracture some of the more important sharp curves. I'll have to translate and export a Vicky type character to see what my goal should be. MakeHuman, which gives me the base to work with, quick and dirty, exports only .obj files. TrueSpace, which I like and learned, will break the polygons, very nicely. But it won't export into anything readable by any of my other programs, another proprietary format .cob. Blender is a royal pain to use, but it looks like I'll have to learn it now too.

One funny note! Somewhere along the line, my zero pose managed to get turned 90 degrees on the x axis. So when I import her she's face down now. Did I tell you I lost her skin? It got replaced with bronze somewhere. She's a quite lovely statue right now!

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-11 23:36:00 +0000 UTC]

Ahh, trials and tribulations. A face down bronze you say?

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markopolio In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-12 00:21:33 +0000 UTC]

Face down, bronze, low-polygon. I would have expected white or gray. But it's a nice bronze.

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crossbrace In reply to markopolio [2007-02-13 16:30:32 +0000 UTC]

Good for that, at least.

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cavanam [2007-02-08 01:37:14 +0000 UTC]

Enjoy? Well depends whether I'm in the pit or not?! Great job again - agree with all previous comments (lazy man's crit!). Nice blur on the hand, and I love the little details - eagle's head, hook on chain, softening on candle glow - great stuff.
cheers
mikec

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crossbrace In reply to cavanam [2007-02-08 13:40:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the fav. (I'm always happy to get a "ditto" type comment, I give them myself.) That silly candle in the background took longer to get right than anything else in the Vue portion of the work. Good eye.

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digiwander [2007-02-07 23:33:58 +0000 UTC]

What an incredible image...
I am thinking I need to send you a note, I have an image I think you need to use!

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crossbrace In reply to digiwander [2007-02-07 23:49:04 +0000 UTC]

Fire away, not sure I can do what you may have in mind but always happy to look.

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digiwander In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-08 23:18:50 +0000 UTC]

I have a couple of images I would really like to see in a dungeon setting. However, I am afraid they may be too much skin for your tastes. But, let me go through and see which ones I would like and let you take a look.

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crossbrace In reply to digiwander [2007-02-09 04:58:36 +0000 UTC]

Too much skin? Bring 'em on, Bucko. (If they are yours, I know they are tasteful.)

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digiwander In reply to crossbrace [2007-02-09 07:35:10 +0000 UTC]

time to go pull out some CDs and find the ones I'm thinking of!

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crossbrace In reply to digiwander [2007-02-09 13:58:00 +0000 UTC]

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Darkraifu [2007-02-07 23:05:28 +0000 UTC]

I agree, you may be new at this but you're work doesn't look it...this is marvelous hon. Love the drama of the hands coming through the floor grate.

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crossbrace In reply to Darkraifu [2007-02-07 23:50:19 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Hon. Means a lot.

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rixster [2007-02-07 22:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Wow - awesome composition and superb atmosphere and lighting!! Great character and posing too!!

Think you can stop calling yourself a noob now

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