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Description The Secret teller would also like to say: "'I know this is probably gonna get a few flames - I just need to say, I like a wide variety of different art forms and cartooning styles... but this is a little war I've observed forming for quite sometime. Y'all need to get over yourselves, seriously.'"

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Comments: 80

K3nel1OS [2010-09-02 04:29:54 +0000 UTC]

...

ummm...

I just hope everyone knows

"American"

and

"anime"

aren't the only drawing styles evar -

and they really aren't all that different.

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Zepher-Lotto [2010-02-17 07:12:42 +0000 UTC]

actually i think it more significant to draw your own style whatever it is and stop letting a bunch of sylized copyccats get angry becuase youre not like them

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KendallMay45 [2009-12-17 01:47:18 +0000 UTC]

this is so interesting, I just wrote a journal entry about this very thing a a week ago or so. here's what I wrote. its basically the same thing as your secret...


I remember at Kendall and also at the College of Creative Studies in Detroit, anime was SUCH a Taboo. SO many people, especially the professors can't STAND it. Me and this other girl once discussed it with a snobby professor I had back in the day at Kendall about it. He loved to discuss why he hated it. He was like "it looks ALL THE SAME!" I remember I told him, I said "LOOK...yeah some of it is gay, but there are certain series and certain artist's who style really stand out. Its still a form of expression as well. I think perhaps artists such as Yuu Watase, Chiho Saito, Rumiko Takahashi, I think they were so popular because their work DID differ slightly. More elegant line work, softer expressions, humorous comedy, stuff like that. Also its not just the character design. Really, the storyline can possibly make or break an anime or manga series. If the characters are gorgeous but the story sucks, yeah it won't work". lol well needless to say, he still thinks I'm dumb about that. He also likes to make fun of me because I like the Thomas Kincade paintings. Whatever. He sucks. Jon McDonald, you're an artistic SNOB and your paintings SUCK! There, I said it bitoch. lol!

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kristasketch In reply to KendallMay45 [2010-11-20 00:15:43 +0000 UTC]

I know your account has been deactivated (lol), but let me just say something.

First off, I find it extremely rude and immature of you to call out a Kendall teacher by name just because he doesn't like your personal favorite style of artwork. People have opinions - it doesn't make them "snobs". I don't call someone a snob if they don't like a certain piece of music or food, but when it comes to art someone is a snob. Certainly you yourself are a snob for saying you don't like HIS style of artwork?

Second, usually at art colleges, they are going to be snobby, yes. They frown upon anything that isn't master paintings/Renaissance, etc. and for good reason. I have a professor that also teaches at Kendall that doesn't like "representational art", i.e. things that are supposed to be humans/animals rather than shapes. It is difficult, but it's to help you learn. If you're going to study for any sort of art major, you have to cater to THEIR rules. You can't just draw anime for all your classes and expect to get a passing grade - you have to learn the fundamentals of art before applying a certain style to your work.

tl;dr - Get used to being in art classes, or consider going to a different school or majoring in something else.

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CartwAalbiel [2009-09-01 22:09:05 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree with the principle of what you're saying, only what you draw is not anime

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Crawling-meower [2009-08-31 20:09:41 +0000 UTC]

Sooo... anything that isn't anime is "american" now?

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GingersaurusRex [2009-08-28 13:30:42 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree with you. I hate when people criticize others just because they don't like what the person is drawing. Keeep drawing in anime style! I'll support you!

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Leahh23 [2009-08-27 19:31:43 +0000 UTC]

Do what you want

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Mydnia [2009-08-26 21:45:36 +0000 UTC]

american animation is plummeting in quality :/

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Snezhinka [2009-08-26 07:59:18 +0000 UTC]

"elite", "correct", whatevs, all that is just tosh. You stick to your style and do what you like and enjoy, not what other people think you should. Ignore people who get on a high horse, and be unique in your artistic style. I like something bcs I like it, personally, not because it conforms to something I consider "correct", bcs there is no "correct" in art, there has never been, though before people pretended there was. Toulouse-Lautrec, Shishkin, all these great artists didnt conform and woah now their works cost mind-boggling sums of money. ST FTW

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SanneCazemier [2009-08-25 13:06:21 +0000 UTC]

heehee, the style you proclaimed to be anime, isn't actually anime^^

You got your own style, hun
don't worry about^^

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Miotas-Sisceal In reply to SanneCazemier [2009-08-30 18:34:22 +0000 UTC]

This. I really don't see an anime-ish style either. And really, no anime even has one distinct style.

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ShadowRittach [2009-08-24 19:13:58 +0000 UTC]

Classic argument pertaining to what is "real art." Don't sweat it if they're up on their high horse, and don't be afraid to knock 'em down.

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Rozalynd [2009-08-24 18:46:53 +0000 UTC]

Tch. Draw whatever you want, those people can shove their 'elite' where the sun don't shine. I actually sometimes find cartoon styles more difficult than more manga inspired styles, and the other day found myself forced to draw fanart in a different style from the original because of the headache I was getting over trying to draw it right in the original style.

I like the look of your art, shame I don't know who you are. ):

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truepenny [2009-08-24 14:22:34 +0000 UTC]

This seems like a pretty silly thing for there to be a "war" over. I agree, people need to get over themselves and just do what they want to do without caring what other people think. There's not one right way in art. That kind of defeats the purpose, really.

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Rayne-Redfield [2009-08-24 13:46:54 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you. I find it annoying when people are rude to me when I say I prefer anime.

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noshsh [2009-08-24 11:34:35 +0000 UTC]

i like anime, and its very popular where i am. i'm more of a clasic artist but do what YOU like not what others tell you like.

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Naivax-Maundrell [2009-08-24 10:23:55 +0000 UTC]

Methinks people just need to mind their own business. *nods seriously* >>

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kristasketch [2009-08-24 06:29:25 +0000 UTC]

Then they don't deserve to call themselves artists.

Art is art, no matter what your style is.

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crzee4art [2009-08-24 04:38:14 +0000 UTC]

GAH!!! I agree darn it!! I personally like anime style way better than american comic style!!! American comic style always struck me as ugly

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Jedi-Master-Revan [2009-08-24 04:36:25 +0000 UTC]

I don't draw (only on here to read dAs ), but purely as someone who likes to look at art (and watch tv), I like anime a lot better than cartoons.

In fact, both of my favorite shows are Animes

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Naivax-Maundrell In reply to Jedi-Master-Revan [2009-08-24 10:23:31 +0000 UTC]

I have to agree with you. I tend to like anime a bit more than other cartoons.

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Jedi-Master-Revan In reply to Naivax-Maundrell [2009-08-24 23:04:25 +0000 UTC]

Gundam SEED and Inuyasha beat any other tv show ever created ('cept maybe House)

Also, I like your sig.

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Naivax-Maundrell In reply to Jedi-Master-Revan [2009-08-25 04:13:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. ^^ House is awesome.

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WalkerMonetArt [2009-08-24 02:59:15 +0000 UTC]

I go to an art college and my style is frowned upon. I can draw "america cartoons" to but i prefer anime. It's the kinda cartoons I grew up around. Anime makes me happy when I draw it. The Tex Avery style is dead and gone. Look at Ben10 and Ten Titans their american cartoons who copy the japan style

Dont let no one tell you no to draw what make you happy

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alyssa-is-on-crack [2009-08-24 02:56:04 +0000 UTC]

I feel more looked down upon for doing American-cartoon like stuff. When I draw it people assume I can't do any better :/
People are more impressed with anime a lot of the times I think. (because it's more proportionally correct and realistic)
I think my art is influenced by both though....

And I don't think anime is more difficult. Just to throw that out there. Depending on your influences and what you've been drawing like your whole life EITHER can be hard.

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greytawnyowl In reply to alyssa-is-on-crack [2009-08-24 12:04:50 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure anime is more proportionally correct and realistic, it may seem better but most people who use "anime-style" draw big eyes, small nose and mouth, the faces aren't very realistic (and I'm not even talking about the hair), the body is just as unrealistic as any cartoon style. Those styles are just different, most people draw anime like stuff because it's a trend or they like anime/mangas, nothing's wrong with that, but I'm not sure people ae impressed byt it because it seems more realistic. ^^

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AnnaKlava [2009-08-24 00:19:16 +0000 UTC]

Don't let anyone tell you what is or isn't art and what style is better. They can go fuck themselves indeed. Draw what makes you happy and be proud! Anything is art. Anime and American styles are both art no matter how you put it or want to argue about it. No one is better than the other. I think having your own style is important it doesn't matter if it leans towards Anime or American. Anyone who wants to bitch to me don't bother replying.

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irishgal487 [2009-08-23 23:39:30 +0000 UTC]

You speck the truth! Never let anyone tell you what to do! You like drawing anime...keep on doing it ST!

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RavenRandom [2009-08-23 21:10:47 +0000 UTC]

This is why I don't buy "How to draw" books. I would rather develop my own style then conform to someone else's idea of art.

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alyssa-is-on-crack In reply to RavenRandom [2009-08-24 02:57:24 +0000 UTC]

I always hated those things!
probably for the same reason lol
It's almost never even a nice looking style....

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buyobabyboo In reply to alyssa-is-on-crack [2009-08-28 16:54:02 +0000 UTC]

when I've flipped through them, it seems they help a lot with proportions though and proportions can be adjusted to any style, hehe

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Purplecherry5 [2009-08-23 20:21:41 +0000 UTC]

Guess what?
Either is art.
ANY FREAKING STYLE is just named after the style people!
BBUUUTTT it can be drawn anywhere!

I personally can't draw.
And I enjoy whatever art that catches my eye wither less it is anime...drawings...sketches...paintings...metal art...carving...leather press...dolls...words...
ECT.
Art site.
So who cares what you draw anywhere. It's art. The end.

[If we can COOK Italian/Greek/Oriental/Mexican ect. in America and be successful then we can draw whatever successful too.]

BTW very lovely drawings on both sides!!! Even if you did them or not

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AnneHime In reply to Purplecherry5 [2009-08-23 21:30:03 +0000 UTC]

I could not have said this in a better way. ^^

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thetifftiff [2009-08-23 20:17:00 +0000 UTC]

That doesn't actually look like anime to me but that's not a bad thing, it's better to have a unique style but it's good that you can use more than one if you wanted to.

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danii-01 In reply to thetifftiff [2009-08-26 00:17:54 +0000 UTC]

I agree with this.

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DusktheDemon [2009-08-23 20:01:55 +0000 UTC]

I don't care how you draw.. Just enjoy what you draw, because I can feel that you enjoy it

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Ninja-Nicole [2009-08-23 19:48:50 +0000 UTC]

I hate people who complain about people drawing anime.

I've been an anime fan for over a decade, I feel I am perfectly entitled to draw it.

Also, I am a fan of some western cartoons, but I rarely draw them. I only draw characters I really like, and most western ones aren't fun to draw =/

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xXx-Astaroth-xXx [2009-08-23 19:35:44 +0000 UTC]

I agree. I mean, people who draw lion king style get bugged for that, too. Art is art, really. Even if you draw anime and someone else draws another style, it doesn't mean you couldn't draw their style. @_@

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Have-Not-Sheep [2009-08-23 19:17:25 +0000 UTC]

I never liked anime, but it's not when people draw anime that annoys me, it's when they draw Naruto or other things a lot. Mostly because I never watch those shows and I never get the jokes, and I feel out of the loop. If the top one is your style, it doesn't really look that Japanese to me. It looks unique, slightly like mine, but different. Do what you like. Like what you do.

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adapho In reply to Have-Not-Sheep [2009-08-23 19:58:31 +0000 UTC]

"I never liked anime, but it's not when people draw anime that annoys me, it's when they draw Naruto or other things a lot."

I feel the same way, or when people repeat the same face and add different hair every time, or repeat the same thing over and over.

Use the style, but use variety please.

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Mareyn In reply to adapho [2009-08-24 01:14:33 +0000 UTC]

LOL
holy crap your sig is amazing

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adapho In reply to Mareyn [2009-08-24 13:13:00 +0000 UTC]

I thought so. 8D

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scarymuffin [2009-08-23 19:00:52 +0000 UTC]

You're sounding a little elitist yourself there. Let them bitch, while they let the kawaii desu anime artists bitch at them. Every group has its douches, you just have to live with it.

And saying you could do something but you don't is almost always taken as a really lame excuse.

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poisonedkisses0 [2009-08-23 18:49:45 +0000 UTC]

I...like the anime style better anyway. Not that western cartoon is BAD, I just prefer anime

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wislythium [2009-08-23 18:46:12 +0000 UTC]

i wish i knew who's the ST... i like your style. i draw anime-style, even if i love the american-cartoon style.
:/

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LoboSabio [2009-08-23 18:38:16 +0000 UTC]

Why not instead of being anime or western, be your own?

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FeenaTheCute In reply to LoboSabio [2009-08-26 20:11:28 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think it'll be considered one or the other, regardless. :\ People think there has to be a category for everything.

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LoboSabio In reply to FeenaTheCute [2009-08-26 22:37:13 +0000 UTC]

Ah, but those categories are arbitrary. Why follow them?

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FeenaTheCute In reply to LoboSabio [2009-08-28 22:43:00 +0000 UTC]

I don't think many people try to follow categories, but most everyone feels as if they need to put said person IN one just to understand what they're seeing. Kinda get what I mean?

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