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"BUT THE DEFINITION!!!" Sorry, but feminism is a movement. A definition does not define a FUCKING MOVEMENT, BECAUSE A MOVEMENT IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE. YOU CANNOT CONTROL AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO FIT A FUCKING DEFINITION. "BUT THEY'RE NOT REAL FEMINI-" No. Sure, maybe they don't fit your good cookie cutter feminist shape, but guess what? You cannot deny the amount of toxic feminists within the movement. Sure, they're not "real feminists" as you point out, but they can still choose to call themselves feminists. And a lot of feminists are fucking toxic feminists that dislike anyone who's not a fucking feminist.
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Look up the definition on Google. "the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men". *Most* feminists just want women to be equal to men, not better. Like ProfessorSheepie said, it's called "feminism" because females are the oppressed gender . Now, some feminists say that feminism is about women being better than men. If they think that, then they don't even know what feminism is.
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It's called Feminism because females were the oppressed gender. If men were the oppressed gender, then perhaps it would be called "masculinism". Feminism is equality between genders. :\
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basic logic...you cant create gender equality by only focusing on the issues of one gender. by its very definition feminism is not about equality
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It's called equalism when for both genders.
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Uhh, feminism is wanting just as much rights as men have... Just saying... >_> I think you might be referring to feminazis.
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Ever seen Feminists protesting against the policies that result in a male suicide rate more than 3.5 times higher than the female suicide rate? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the unfairness of courts that award the children to the woman 99% of the time? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the sexual bias in colleges and schools where most teachers are female? Ever seen Feminists protesting that it's unfair that breast cancer research receives more than 20 times as much money as prostate cancer research? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the unfairness of Women's Studies courses when there are no Men's Studies courses at the same universities and colleges? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the unfairness of false accusations of rape and domestic abuse being used so often by lying women that have resulted in many innocent men being sent to prison - often for years?
If Feminism represented "equality", then Feminists would be fighting equally for Men's Rights as well.
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If Feminism represented "equality", then Feminists would be fighting equally for Men's Rights as well.
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How about you go back to English class and learn root words and suffixes. The definition is in the name.
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Hi TomBoy603, I am afraid that things are not so easy... languages are alive things, a language is a system that interacts with history and society, that's why we need Dictionaries and we can't just learn what prefixes and suffixes mean. Words have strange histories, that are connected with the time in which they were forged and with their "adventures" in history, words evolve all the time (but before changing the meaning of a word we should before know it better!)
Funny examples here -> mentalfloss.com/article/57032/…
I think you should consider this before saying that Feminism is not about equality, I understand how the word can be misleading, but the concept behind is all about equality and the history of feminism proves it. If some people define themselves as feminists and declare they want female superiority, tell them to go check the dictionary AND a history book, they will discover to be wrong.
Feminism has been extremely important to liberate women AND men from the fixed roles that pasts societies dictated (think about it: when women were obliged to be obedient, pure virgins or stay-at-home mothers, men were only "free to a point": they could only have sex with prostitutes before marriage, and after marriage, being the only "bread winners", they had all the responsibility concerning money). Unfortunately there is still some work to do (and the statistics proves it, equality is not a reality yet), but even if equality was already granted to all human beings, it would still be important to safeguard the word FEMINISM, to remember the important role that it has played in our history, to create a better world for both sexes.
The suffix that associate the term "feminism" with "female" has to do with the fact that the fixed roles I described before were imposed more directly and more harshly to women, but it has also to do with the fact that, historically, this situation, that was bad for both genders, has been fought MOSTLY by women (especially in the beginning), while men (quite blindly) have VERY OFTEN chose to fight to maintain the old customs...
So you can consider the suffix "fem" to be in "feminism" in order to thank all those heroines that have started the fight for the liberation of women and men.
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I'd rather see feminists msking a difference rather than bitching about it on their blogs. Feminists only focus on women. I don't know why you guys won't accept that. If you focus on issues of both men and women you'd be an equalist. And feminists have always bern nasty and bitchy to me and men so fuck that.
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Yes, you may want to consider the possibility that feminists became "bitchy" toward you because you were supporting wrong assumptions about feminism, and then they must have become "nasty" to you because you were accusing them to "bitch about it".
As I said before, check the dictionary and a history book, insted of ranting about what you don't know that well, yet. Remember: it is no shame not to know something, and it is not permanent, either. You can always change it by learning. Open a book. You will discover that it is false that "feminism only focus on women". I explained you why feminism is called so: it is because women have started the fight for gender equality in a time when men were opposed to it (to their own detriment, as we then discovered, because also men are happier in a more equal world).
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I thought so, but you never know around here (not a native speaker, sorry).
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They've always been horrible people to me. Even before I started calling them off. They'd ask me if I'm a feminist, and I'd say no. Then they start calling me a fucking rape apologist or something stupid like that that makes no sense.
The definition is in the word feminist. Fem means "woman hood". Adding the suffix -ist means "to focus on." Adding the two together means "Focusing on women." What have Feminists done for men? Nothing. The form of equality you want, is to focus on the areas where women aren't equal, and then equal them out with men. You don't do anything for men so stop.
I don't even know who you are, or why you even decided it was a good idea to talk to an egalitarian about this.
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1- the fact that some idiots call themselves "feminist" shouldn't be the base on which you form your opinion on feminism. Books are there for you to read them! check an history book, I beg you!
2- I already explained you why languages don't work in the oversimplified way you describe:
** the definition is in the word feminist. Fem means "woman hood". ---> yes, I told you, it's because women were the first to fight for gender equality, in history. Men, in the beginning opposed this fight and proved to be in favor of gender inequality.
** Adding the suffix -ist means "to focus on." ---> no, "ist" does not mean what you think. Check it out, books are useful!
** Adding the two together means "Focusing on women." ---> again: language is not math. You can't do word + word = meaning. There are a number of disciplines that study languages and meaning, things are not so simplistic. Have you ever heard of such things like etymology, semiotics, semantics, linguistics? Do you know what they are? Good news, you don't need to deepen too much, because the people who write dictionaries have already done it for you, and they wrote the meanings of words taking all these things into account. So CHECK THE DICTIONARY!
** What have Feminists done for men? Nothing. ---> I already made some examples: men today live a in a world where they aren't obliged to be bread winners for their family, they can choose to be stay-at-home dads, because their female partners can work. Men today can have satisfying relationships with women before marriages. Men today can choose not to be machos. Men today can discuss politics with their female lovers. ... these are just obvious examples. Gender equality is better for everybody.
** You don't do anything for men so stop. ---> well, it is true: feminism haven't fought for the right for men to vote or to work... BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD THESE RIGHTS!
You don't know who I am, and you don't know what egalitarianism is and what feminism is. But I told you already, it's not big deal, you can always learn! Pleas learn before saying wrong things with such determination.
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Ever seen Feminists protesting against the policies that result in a male suicide rate more than 3.5 times higher than the female suicide rate? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the unfairness of courts that award the children to the woman 99% of the time? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the sexual bias in colleges and schools where most teachers are female? Ever seen Feminists protesting that it's unfair that breast cancer research receives more than 20 times as much money as prostate cancer research? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the unfairness of Women's Studies courses when there are no Men's Studies courses at the same universities and colleges? Ever seen Feminists protesting against the unfairness of false accusations of rape and domestic abuse being used so often by lying women that have resulted in many innocent men being sent to prison - often for years?
If Feminism represented "equality", then Feminists would be fighting equally for Men's Rights as well.
I have never met a nice Feminist, only more deluded ones that are lacking awareness of the damage they support, or the how fake their "movement" is.
Feminism hates women.
Feminist leaders who "founded" modern feminism such as Gloria Steinem were sponsored agents (Gloria Steinem was trained and sponsored by the CIA;12160.info/video/gloria-steine… www.newyorker.com/magazine/201…
The super-rich corporate sponsors of Feminism (all old white guys!) just want women to work for corporations, doubling the work force available so there's more competition for jobs, which raises prices, and reduces salaries, the result has been living costs rising so high that both parents have to work just to be able to support a family far more than used to be the case. At the same time they despise housewives and hate marriage.
It was intended also to destroy families as much as possible, destroying any group that resists the state while pretending to be "anti-establishment". They always demand MORE government, MORE tyranny, MORE laws, MORE control of people's speech and thoughts and lives.
Feminism's rise is in line with the rise of divorce rates, the break up of families, the rise of fatherless families. The goal is destruction of any social cohesion that can resist the State and the big corporate super-rich elites.
These women can explain why they have woken up and hate feminism;
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Feminism is the equality of women to men. That's literally what it is. Your stamp is wrong.
Now INDIVIDUALS can use that as an excuse to do whatever they want just like anyone else can use religions or games or television shows as excuses for what they do, but that doesn't change what the word means.
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nope...
it's not wrong...
Feminism focuses solely on women's rights issues.
the ideology doesn't cover race, men, LGBT, disabilities, or anything else...
Egalitarianism, however...
believes EVERY one is equal... and fights for EVERYONE'S rights.
not just women's rights...
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Because men already have these rights that women are fighting for. Some women do think that women are better than men, and that men are evil, but that's not what feminism is about.
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I know this is a really old comment, but feminism is equality for men and women, in terms of sex. These two sexes can be of any gender, color, race, social status, disability, sexual orientation, etc.
I doubt you'll reply this comment, but if you do, please don't try to prove me wrong. As a feminist, I know what real feminism is and what it preaches. Thanks. And next time dig deeper into an ideology, don't say feminism is all about women just because it has "femin-" in the name. We care about the issues men face just as much as we care about the issues women face.
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Technically speaking... Feminism focuses primarily on women's rights issues.
The belief that women should be treated equally to men.
Which is a good belief to have...
Some Feminists care about men's issues... but then you got the radfems who harassed
Matt Taylor over a SHIRT.... and then blame HIM for recieving the harassment... to the point of breaking into
tears...
I thought feminism is supposed to be against victim blaming?!
and yet: here are some feminists... blaming an innocent man for wearing a shirt that his FEMALE friend made for him...
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Radfems are not counted as feminists. It's a shame that so many people turn against feminism just because of them. It's like me saying I hate Christianity just because of Westboro Baptist Church. Doesn't make sense, right?
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radfems are radfems. that is it...
Feminists are feminists... while radfems want female supremacy and normally have a huge victim complex. which is the complete opposite to what feminism is supposed to be.
that is true. A few bad apples spoil the bunch, right?
I turned to egalitarianism because of the bad apples.
don't wanna associate with the rads...
I would probably call myself a feminist once the rads are silenced....
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I know what radfems are and what they want, you needn't explain.
To be honest, feminism and equalism is the same thing, to me at least... I just tend to call myself a feminist because of bad experience with a very sexist and conservative classmate I once had.
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Women's Rights to achieve EQUALITY.
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yes, they do achieve equality... for women...
so it's not for ALL equality.
since it's not for everyone...
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Feminist want equal rights between genders and mutual respect. (equalist)
Femi-nazis want to be above men and feel superior. (sexist)
Learn the difference people, even if some women identify as a feminist and act like a femi-nazi then don't class them with feminists.
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With all do respect, feminazi isn't even recognized as an actual thing. That's just a label feminists put on other feminists to make excuses.
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Feminism has such a negative connotation, like the words "liberal" and "fundamentalist". No sense in considering yourself anyone but an equalist.
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Dude that's literally what feminism is
that's what it's all about
what
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feminism is women's lib. 
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How can it be all about equality if it only focuses on the needs of one gender well ignoring and even denying the needs that the other face and condone the alienation and humiliation of those that try to raise attention to the problems that it ignores?
Feminism isn't about equality, it's about gaining privilege for middle-class, white, Western women.
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dictionary.reference.com/brows…
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The definition doesn't change the fact that a good percentage of feminist advocates are racist, ableist, transphobic and misogynistic (and misandristic for that matter).
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Exactly!! Thank you.
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Fem-i-nism
noun
- An advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social and econiomic equality to men.
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