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Hirpina81 — Tenma's madness

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Published: 2017-07-20 17:55:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 484; Favourites: 3; Downloads: 0
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Description His goal was to have back his son, but he did far more than this: he created the next life form. When he realised this, his mind, already weak for the harsh pain and for the overwork, gone forever.
Being the one who started the end of mankind could scare everyone...
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Anonymous-17 [2017-07-21 16:45:06 +0000 UTC]

I wonder if he was a bit better when Hoshie was still alive.

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Hirpina81 In reply to Anonymous-17 [2017-07-22 09:57:19 +0000 UTC]

I bet he was better, in any sense and meaning. To be loved and cared of can be better than a medicine. Unluckily, people does not see what they've got, until they loose it.

We don't know much about her. In a fan-fiction the author said she studied in the same college where Tenma was. They met, she was able to pass all the barriers of such a person, then they happily married.

He's always been workaholic, but things got worse when he became Minister; he had to read papers, sign documents, and in the spare time he wanted to personally develop his own inventions and experiments.

After a whole day of work, he expected his wife always happy; maybe she was, and we know she tried to hide her own disease, the same illness that then brang her to death. I think she really loved him, deeply, in an old-fashioned way where the wife does not want her husband to care of anything, when he's at home. Hiding things is really common in such way to love.

On the other side, I bet that Hoshiie was the light in Tenma's eyes, even if he almost never told it openly: too much pride, or the old fashioned education as male kids should not cry, and adult men should not show emotions.

So, when he discovered her problem, it was too late. She left a son, a husband and a complex of guilt. And Tenma decided to hide it, leaving Tobio alone, with a nanny-bot. It was hard to know what Tenma had in mind, and Tobio suffered for it. He needed his father, not just a nanny; he needed someone to have faith in and to talk to. Then we know how it ended.

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Anonymous-17 In reply to Hirpina81 [2017-07-22 11:41:10 +0000 UTC]

I did always love Hoshie. That part in the Once Upon A Time comic where Tenma forced her to separate from Atom never ceases to break my heart.

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Hirpina81 In reply to Anonymous-17 [2017-07-24 10:37:26 +0000 UTC]

Yep... at the beginnig she was not sure about this weird idea: a new son, and a robot one. Then, as she knew him, she obvioulsy loved him, even if he had his lost son's face and voice. I bet that, in that version where they could meet, Atom loved Hoshiie and they really enjoyed the life together.
Again, an old fashioned family means that the father and husband takes the main decisions, not expected to hear comments or opinions different from his. So, when he decided a new boy, and a robot-boy, had to enter the family, she had to accept it; when he decided it was enough, she was expected to obey without a doubt.
This is bad, but it's still very common.
And, I have to admit, really stupid: in all his brilliant and genius mind, Tenma was still ready to give commands without an explanation.
In that version he was the most stupid intelligent person ever...
If you create AI robots, you've got to give them explanations about what they have to do and how to execute; it's obvious that people work the same, and his wife, the beloved one, could not be treated this way. Unless he did not love her for real... this could happen, if we abandon our ideal and romantic idea that Tenma had left some love in his heart, for his wife.

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Anonymous-17 In reply to Hirpina81 [2017-07-24 11:52:48 +0000 UTC]

Yes, in traditional Asian families, the husband makes the decisions, so poor Hoshie has no say at all in Atom's fate. It's very sad.

I think Tenma did love Hoshie in some way, it's just that his selfishness blinded him and muddled things up.

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Hirpina81 In reply to Anonymous-17 [2017-07-25 10:42:57 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, to tell you the truth. My relation experience is too poor. The only thing I can say is that in every relation the balance is not perfect, even in the best friendship or in the most ideal love.
I can add this: in almost all the version of the story, Hoshiie's character was not developed at all. She disappeared, as poor Tobio disappeared. And, in the 1980 anime, even Tenma disappeared, sharing, this time, the very same destiny of his own family.

Maybe, for the story, it was clearer to leave just the main character, and put away the secondary topics. But those secondary topics are still interesting, even not intended to be the main story and kicking away Atom.

She was meant to die and to not tell anything to her husband: maybe because he did not want to hear anything, as if he was an old fashioned worker; maybe because she did not want to bother her beloved, and she knew there was nothing to do for heal her.
We just don't know. We can just suppose; there was a fan-fiction where Hoshiie was still alive, but she and Umataro divorced. So, I can imagine him less mad; maybe he's angry because he has got to pay some maintenance after the divorced, but his sense of guilty is less bitter: he may think he killed his son, but not his wife, at least!
That fan-fiction was not so clear, and the characters were not developed enough, but the idea was good.

Maybe Hoshiie would not consider him as a son, just a great invention, a mad one by his once beloved husband. Maybe she could not see him alive...
We don't know much about her, so we can totally invent.

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Anonymous-17 In reply to Hirpina81 [2017-07-25 10:56:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. I made up lots of stories about her, and I'm putting them into my future novel.

Have you made up any stories about Hoshie?

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Hirpina81 In reply to Anonymous-17 [2017-07-26 10:20:33 +0000 UTC]

Nothing, at moment. As she's not a my OC, and as she has not got a real personality or any canon, it's hard to me to put together a personality. And, as I am not very keen on love stories, it'd be a bit common.
Love stories in my own texts are as intense as brief; a love story could go on for ages, but I'll write it very fast, in few lines.
However, I thought about her many times, and wondered about who she could be. You know, I am obviously more interested in Tenma than in her, but I also reckognise her personality would be great as she could relate, and successfully, with Doctor Tenma.
If I could explain how she did, what she said, how she could open all his doors... I would not only find a new good character but also a great answer for my questions in life.

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Anonymous-17 In reply to Hirpina81 [2017-07-26 11:07:56 +0000 UTC]

I'll try and write her well, then! I think I'll dedicate ''The Robot Circus'' to you, by the way.

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Hirpina81 In reply to Anonymous-17 [2017-07-26 23:02:29 +0000 UTC]

^_^

It's a precious present. Thank you very much.
I'd really love to have a copy of it, maybe with your signature, when it's ready

Sometime I ask myself about a thing: why he did not create a Hoshiie-like AI robot? Then, I answer myself like this: he was in obvious pain, but his mind was still in its place, so he could not even think such a thing; when he thinks about an AI, he makes it with free will: there's a possibility the new Hoshiie-robot would not love him as her model did, and it would be a disaster.
He did not want a toy, he wanted to bring his beloved back to life, and better than ever... His mind was gone when he created Atom, so he did not think about the problem of his free will: he WOULD love his father, no way.

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Anonymous-17 In reply to Hirpina81 [2017-07-27 00:30:41 +0000 UTC]

Aww. I can't print my fan-fiction because there are copyright issues, but I'd love it if you had copies of my original fiction. My fan fiction with Atom in it can only be read online because we can't publish fan fiction.

That's a good question. But I think he was so obsessed with having Tobio back that Hoshie didn't come to mind. Or, even more likely, he didn't want Hoshie to be around or Tobio would stick to her rather than be with him!

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Hirpina81 In reply to Anonymous-17 [2017-08-01 22:06:35 +0000 UTC]

We don't really know. I think that it was really hard to survive to his wife's death, but when he had to lose his son too, his mind gave up. So, we just can imagine what thoughts we could find house in Tenma's traumatized mind.

There's a tiny hint about Hoshiie and Tenma in "Atom - The Beginning": a girl and her grandpa are up to visit Tenma and Ochanomizu's college. The old man may be Doctor Saruta, and his nephew is a kid, a timid girl with braids. The girl is Hoshiie.
When the almost adult Umataro passes by, she stares at him; she's too young, she does not know why she's looking at him this way. He senses that, and stiffly asks her: "So, what do you want from me?" She blushes, looks at her shoes and answers: "No, nothing, sorry..."
This is a tiny hint that story gives us, about Tobio's future parents. At the beginning, age difference was too clear, too deep.
We already see in her moves some expressions we will see in Tobio... and in Atom.

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