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Published: 2014-09-28 15:57:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 20460; Favourites: 327; Downloads: 131
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This quickie of Hayley Smith was buried in one of my many stacks of drawings for a couple of months. I found it and went “Hey, this is a really good one, why didn’t I color it?” Better late than never, I suppose.To me, American Dad was at its best when it was more political. You had aggressive liberal Hayley butting heads with aggressive conservative Stan, which created a really fascinating character dynamic – both characters are extremely passionate about their beliefs to the point of extreme comedic exaggeration, yet those beliefs are polar opposites. They’re very much alike and yet have so little in common at the same time. Given everything that happens in this insane world of ours, I think the potential for story ideas between Stan and Hayley was incredible. You can examine literally any issue from both sides with these two and get huge laughs either way. I really think they lost something when they pushed Hayley into the background so Roger could assume the spotlight and become more of an unlikable psychopath.
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Hayley lookin Hella sweet from bandanna to bare feet! 
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Smoking pot and barefoot, a best way to see from a hippie girl.
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You Got That Right!!!
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I like Haley.......really I do.......but I will not smoke.......
10/10!
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I'm convinced that I'm becoming Hayley Smith...
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Of all the characters to turn into, she's one of the more awesome choices
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Awwwww. She will be always my fav in this show. You draw her in the right pose and always with cute feet.
BUT I will not start smoking. Not for her, not for nobody. (Sorry about that)
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She's only liberal when it's convenient. Like in the refugee camp or the nude art class. Still, great pic.
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This is a lovely piece! I happen to like the later episodes, for my taste the political episodes were too much in your face. Either way, the series and characters have more depth than Family guy, and i like their dynamics much more. Stan disagrees with Haley, but still appears to love his daughter.
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This is really good. And I agree she's been thrown in the back, and even turned into a less likeable character as well. While at the meantime making Stan more sympathetic. I wonder if a conservative started writing for it XD
And yes, I don't like where they've gone with Roger either.
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I really don't like that the writers married Hayley and Jeff. The whole point of their on-again/off-again relationship was that he was a loser who kept her down - why would she shackle herself to this dope? And now she barely does anything anymore. Hayley isn't the placid housewife type; that's exactly the kind of thing she's always railed against her entire life. She should be out there, in the world, expressing herself and making a difference, not living at home with this goateed moron and mooching off her parents. It's like the writers just wanted to get her out of the way.
It just feels so unpleasant and out of character for her, and honestly, I really lost a lot of my faith in the show after the marriage happened. I've seen very few episodes past the beginning of Season 6.
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I think Hayley's downfall started with "Camp Refoogue." I never really liked her as much after that abysmal behavior.
But I agree with JB... the critical damage was done when she married Jeff. Since then, her character has been completely viewed through that prism and been consigned to the background.
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I try not to subscribe to the theory of "fan discontinuity" too much...but yeah, I like to act like "Camp Refoogee" never happened. There's no reason for Hayley to suddenly become a lazy selfish bitch who betrays all her core beliefs, and I don't know why the writers thought it'd be funny. (There's an American Dad fanfiction out there that deals with the hypothetical aftermath of the events of this episode, and even though I don't normally go for this "super-dramatic-fanfic-based-on-a-comedy-show" thing, it's a fascinating character study: www.fanfiction.net/s/3745181/1… )
I always point to Season 1's "Stannie Get Your Gun" as the definitive Hayley episode. It shows her at her best - butting heads with Stan on an extremely sensitive and important issue that both of them feel strongly about. She makes her voice heard by expressing herself creatively, which I think is a really admirable trait and says a lot about who she is as a person. And unlike "Camp Refoogee", when she goes against what she believes in and sells out to the theme park executives, she's disgusted with herself for caving in. At the end, naturally Stan learns nothing, but it still doesn't temper Hayley's spirit.
This is what made me admire Hayley in the first place - she lives a life of purpose. She wants to make the world a better place, she wants to express herself, she wants to be independent and make her own decisions. And she believes everyone deserves that right. It's in direct contrast to Stan's duty to the CIA, and that's what makes the two of them such compelling characters. Both of them want to make the world better, but they each have completely different opinions on how it should be done. That's a great premise for a satirical TV comedy. It's just a damn shame that the writers eventually decided they'd rather have Roger play dress-up and torment innocent people every week instead.
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Thank you for you kind words about my fanfic.
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I'll be damned! 
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Part of the reason I did it, yeah. I feel like that was the beginning of her decline as a character... she sort of reminds me of an ultra liberal I knew now: selfish, vindictive, and utterly intolerant of even the slightest difference opinion. So, yeah... she's kind of a cartoon character.
When a friend of mine an I role play or round Robin fanfic stuff with AD, it's an AU where Camp Refogue never happened (or she grew as a person for it), she never married Jeff, and she yearns for a way to change the world, usually getting it... albeit with supernatural or sci-fi means.
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Well, when Roger's species came abck for him, Roger threw Jeff into the tractor beam sending him to his home planet. Jeff has escaped but managed to contact Haley to tell her he doesn't know when he'll be back so he "released her." A little over dramatic in my opinion but I think they've written him out
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I guess JB really is going to catch up on his backlog.
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This is not a character I'm very familiar with but I'm always on the lookout for this kind of fanart HINT HINT
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Of the main characters, they made very little effort to make Hayley more than, what TVTropes would call a "strawman liberal". Before last season, she didn't have any friends, and it was unclear from the time she married Jeff if she was still in college.
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Though the best line about Hayley was this "And you! Gussy up for your husband! Put on some lipstick wear a bra! Hippies aren't sexy they're dirty!"
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I'm not a fan of that line, because "gussying up" for a man is just about the last thing Hayley would ever do. There was that episode where Roger manipulated Hayley and Francine into trying to out-pretty each other, and we saw Hayley with styled hair and heavy makeup in this Jessica Rabbit-style dress - I know that design for her has a pretty big following among folks here on DeviantArt (mostly the same folks who thought Meg Griffin looked better after her pop star makeover), but I thought she looked all wrong in that thing. She looked fine the way she was; there's no need for her to whore herself up like that.
To me, Hayley is a character that the writers really ought to be treating with a bit more respect. Not to a Mary Sue degree, obviously, but just writing her like she's a genuine human being with a purpose in her life. And there's been way too many awkward moments in episodes where she becomes the total opposite of herself for no apparent reason, and I can't for the life of me imagine why the writers choose to do that. Pulling for Langley Falls to have a recycling program, venturing across the country to see a My Morning Jacket concert, dumping Jeff because he takes her for granted and has no prospects - that's the Hayley I admire. But gorging herself on steak while a refugee camp starves to death, dolling herself up like a 1950s housewife and entering a pie-baking contest, secretly wishing for Jeff to beat her...I don't know where the fuck that stuff comes from.
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It comes from Seth McFarland's stupidity. Seth has no clue how to write women in any other form save for being a bitch or being a housewife. He's like the Steven Moffat of adult animation.
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I don't think we can blame Seth for this one - he has very little influence on American Dad, aside from doing a few voices and I think approving the script ideas.
I know the Family Guy writers have openly admitted to struggling to write for Meg, but I don't think Hayley presents the same problem for the American Dad staff. Her personality was always a lot more well-defined than Meg's was, and she certainly had her fair share of episodes early on. Being in college instead of high school, Hayley lends herself to a much wider selection of episode ideas than the typical teenage drama that Meg usually deals with. I think they just got swept up in Stan's aggressive stupidity and Roger's cavalier sociopathy, and decided that was more fun for them to write. Hayley is more level-headed, but the show in general has gotten more and more over the top with every season, so she got left behind, which really sucks.
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This show is comedy gold. It's hard to believe it was made by the same person who made Family Guy, though.
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Seth MacFarlane has very little to do with the production of American Dad, aside from doing several of the voices. It's primarily Mike Barker and Matt Weitzman's creation, which is why the tone is so different from Family Guy. You can see in a few early AD episodes that they tried doing cutaways and overly long gags, but they just don't work with these characters.
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Oh, well that figures. Yeah, I hope they stay with the same style of comedy in American Dad. I prefer it over Family Guy any day.
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I think the show was alright when it was more political but I also kinda like the more bizarre crazy direction they eventually went in too. I think a lot of people just get a thrill out of not ever knowing what Roger's gonna do in an episode so they just ran with that more. An earlier episode of the show I happen to really like is "Lincoln Lover." Anyway, great drawing.
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Neat...I just watched the Evil Monkey on Family Guy roll one while listening to Foghat.
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