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Published: 2012-02-28 05:14:14 +0000 UTC; Views: 3221; Favourites: 123; Downloads: 14
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Listen. Rape/Murder/Slavery ain't cool.I am not saying that Christians think it's cool.
I am not saying that Christians think it's cool.
I am not saying that Christians think it's cool.
This stamp is saying that these things are written about and described with instructions inside the Bible.
This is a response I guess... to . Sorry. I just don't agree with what you said. No hard feelings, I just wanted to make a response.
I considered disabling comments, but decided against it because that's just not how I roll.
But... I'm not going to debate this point with anybody because it's all been said and done before.
Like here: and here:
So I likely won't be responding to comments, and that's just me being honest. Plus, it's really bloody hot in my house and that's making me kinda lazy. (Okay I kind of suck at not commenting.)
Also I know I said I'd be cutting down on the... well this sort of stuff. I'm trying, honestly! I am really hard on Christianity. It's just that one stamp jumped out at me from my inbox.
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Ever heard of the game "Telephone"?
Or have you seen the "Whisper Challenge" on YouTube?
The multiple translations the Bible had is pretty much like that-
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Where the heck in the bible do they condone these things?
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www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-hβ¦
www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-hβ¦
www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-hβ¦
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You DO realize that's a biased source, right?
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Thank you for this. Yes, the Bible says that stuff. But not all Christians follow it. My boyfriend Jax is Christian (I'm Pagan), and guess what? He's bisexual and poly; his other boyfriend Kay was sexually abused and I was emotionally and physically abused, and Jax has sworn on his own life to protect me and Kay from danger.Β Β
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And that is why this book should be read or taught to kids from page one to whatever page it ends on. Every single word.Β It is a vile evil book that should not be cherry picked whatsoever.
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I like your thinking, we may become great friends
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I'd like specific chapter and verses that condone rape, murder, and slavery.
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www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm
www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm
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I actually was thinking of that site when reading this stamp...
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These were from specific periods in history. Eventually the ancient Hebrews abandond these disgracful practices.
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this person explains it all well lipizzaner-kgirl.deviantart.co⦠*cough* *cough*
Also there is a huge difference between reading and studying.
Saying "I read the bible so I understand it" is like me reading a book on brain surgery and then saying "I read the instructions I can do a surgery"Β
Reading is not equal to studyingΒ
Studying also means understanding history in many things like law, language, culture etc.Β
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The funny part is that if those things are evil, then why defend those passages?
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The bible covers rape, murder, and slavery and gives instructions on how to deal with those things, because those are recurring elements in human society. It also gives instructions on how to deal with envy, lust, greed, gluttony etc. because those are also recurring human emotions. Nowhere does the bible say to rape, murder or enslave and actually says the opposite. Although the South did use bible passages to defend slavery it is important to note that the just as religious North used bible passages to defend their own position that slavery was wrong. Β
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The Bible wasn't meant to be taken literally. Some people forget that unfortunately.
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Good discussion in this thread.
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That's a bit odd then - if it's not meant to be taken literally then why believe in it at all? If God did not literally say things like 'have no other gods before me,' or if Jesus did not really teach X Y or Z, die for everyone's 'sins' and come back from the dead and all that, then why take any of it seriously?
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If I may say something, the Bible IS translated from Hebrew and we all know what Japanese>English translation fails can be like... *Shrug* Just something to keep in mind; not trying to change your opinion.
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You have a good point
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Thanks
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Not only that....but who knows what they changed back in the middle ages to suit whatever they wanted....
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The majority of the laws in the Old Testament (where this debated stuff is talked about) were thrown out when Jesus died and rose. He pretty much busted the rule book (which still contained then-senseless laws from a VERY different time long before that).
The most important thing about quoting the Bible is context. IT DRIVES ME NUTS WHEN PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT THE CONTEXT!!!! I know a lot of fellow Christians who quote the verse saying it's evil to tattoo your body, but the context is 1) it's in the Old Testament, way different scene, and 2) it's in a list of rules for the Hebrews to not get involved with the neighboring witchcraft-practicing countries. The verse before that says you're not allowed to shave the sides of your beard! o_O Β READ THE SURROUNDING PASSAGES PEOPLE!!!! Again, most Old Testament laws are irrelevant today. I bet you could come up with a pretty funny list of those!
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Most people see it as a guideline for life. Like how Jesus died for our sins, you should sacrifice things for people you love etc. But all this debate whether or not people should believe in a god is silly. And trying to prove the nonexistence of a divine deity with modern science is pretty arrogant. As well as damning anyone who refuses to acknowledge said divine deity.
To further on this long ramble, the Bible is interpreted differently by different people. The whole "don't take it too literally" is my interpretation. Some people may take the whole thing literally. It's all a matter of personal beliefs. Same with the church. Not everyone practices the church the same way, even if they belong in the same church.
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I honestly don't know if there is or is not a god, and I have never met a single person who says they can prove that there is none. You can't prove a negative. As for me, I don't believe mostly because simply I just don't, or I can't. None of the arguments for it are convincing to me, and it just all doesn't make sense to me. I'm sure that's the way it is for most people like me.
As for the Bible being interpreted differently by different people... Does that mean that it's not really meant to be taken as the 'Word of God' then, if everyone can interpret it differently? Because if one person interprets it in a way that allows them to be a slave owner, and another person interprets it in a way that does not allow slavery, if it's all a matter of belief, who is to say who is right? If it's a matter of belief, which is God's message on slavery?
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Honestly, I believe there is some sort of divine deity. Whether or not it is the one spoken of in the Bible or any other religious texts will never be known. But I choose to manifest my beliefs of a god through Catholicism. (Which by the way, I prefer praying to the Virgin Mary than to Jesus Christ himself. I dunno, I feel more comfortable praying to her.)
Well. That's a tough question. I can't give you a straight answer for that one. Honestly though, people should also guide their lives with morals and ideals outside of their sacred texts. The Bible isn't the Dummy's Guide to Life. It's a way you should live. It's not good to have slaves. Morals pretty much tell you it's bad to enslave someone. I don't think a god would like it if you enslave one of his closest creations. I'm sorry I could only answer your question in one of the worst ways possible, but remember that all people have different values and ideals, so there is no complete union in everything. Especially in religion.
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I always thought Catholicism was very interesting. It's very ritualistic, very pagan actually, especially in that people can pray to more than one supernatural entity. When I was Wiccan, I liked the idea of having a female deity to pray to, though I never could really get myself into it, if you know what I mean.
No need to apologize, haha. It's a much better answer than what I'm sure some of the people who've commented on my things before might say. This is going to come out really awkward, but from what you've said, I'd have to say you're my favorite type of Christian, haha - doesn't necessarily rely on the bible for answers to every single thing (like morality) or take it too literally.
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Yeah. Although I'm no expert in my own religion, which is pretty sad. Usually, I pray to the Virgin Mary for protection and mental security, and to God for thanks. It's weird, I know.
Um, well thanks. I'm glad I could give you another way to look at Christians and our religion as a whole. We get a bad rep due to the crazies. And sadly, some people are ignorant enough to believe everyone is like that.
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I read a lot of interesting stories in the Bible...
in fact it's where I learned the origin of the term 'get laid'
I do believe in the New Testament teachings
The rest of it is a bunch of EXTREMELY inflated metaphors
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lol God bless dude
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Lol, is that where the term came from? That's actually pretty funny
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I AM SUCH AN IDIOT FOR GETTING CONDONE AND CONDEMN MIXED UP GAH
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It's easy to make that mistake lol I always have to do a double take with words that sound so similar like they do.
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and yeah, even thoguh I'm Jewish, I've read some parts of the Tanakh conncerning rape....and wow. they're like recipes for PTSD.
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I took a look at the stamp this is responding to, and... my god, apologists for this sort of thing are just weak. I have more respect for people who have to good sense to disavow the cruelties and focus on the new testament, which is slightly less evil.
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Mm yeah, I find that most of the better Christians I talk to tend to look at the Bible a bit more objectively than others; most still believe in it, but try to focus more on the new testament as you mentioned, something to do with Jesus' laws or something, my mind's a blank at the moment, but someone might know what I mean lol.
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The usual argument is "when Jesus came, he fulfilled the laws of the old testament", which conveniently writes off all of the old testament (meaning they can't refer back to it without being obvious, blatant cherry pickers)... but they never ever seem to provide a satisfactory answer to the fact that Jesus explicitly says he's not there to change the old laws in the least.
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Hm... Interesting how that works eh? Do you by chance know where this particular part of the bible might be found? I'm still trying to work through reading the old testament at the moment.
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I think the quote is along the lines of "not an iota shall be lost". I got this off my brother, who knows the bible better than I do.
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Ah thanks! I'll do some googlin' tonight, haha
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You're welcome. I'm happy to help.
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As a Christian I don't condone rape, murder or slavery AT ALL. I read the bible every now and then, but some people also re-read the bible wrong.
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I'm a christian and I don't belive Rape, Murder, or Slavery. Don't get me wrong I do read the Bible but I don't it's all 100% on most people preach about these days but I do believe what's written to teach as something.Besides like I said I don't in any enslavement , murder , or rape.
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I'm sorry, I think you accidentally your whole comment there - I don't quite understand what you were trying to say :S
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The bible, if you actually read it, is a very cruel thing. Think about it
It does say to rape women if you sac their city
To merry your rapeist if you are raped.
It says thou shalt not kill BUT it says to kill non christans, gays, people who dissagrees and girls who have lost their verginity before being merried.
I don't recall where it says anything about slavery, but it would'nt shock me if it does.
This comeing from a person who holds the bible near and dear to her heart, I agree with this.
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This is why I think, the Bible was written and edited by humans...
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It's true 
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