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Published: 2013-09-19 13:50:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 56137; Favourites: 1323; Downloads: 971
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Description Another piece to my collection - Sword intended for dark templar. This time I also grabbed model into some textures. Originally I planned to suit it up into modern style but classic is classic. All modern features put aside and medieval/fantasy piece has been born. Hard condition sword for cruel times.

Technical background is as usual. Concept, modeling, texturing and renderings are mine. Picture of templar is taken from free web. Model is highpoly, I worked in 3ds max+vray, this time I visited Zbrush as well, and finished it in photoshop. My previous models had problems with proper dimensions. Hope, now it is ok. Grip is oval.


Textures are detailed and picture is quite large (2000x3000). For better view I recommend to open it in full size.

So what? Do you like it or not? Tnx for comments if any.


P.S.

people used to put objection against 2 feature.

1. It is too short. - I had issue to hit right length in the past I know it. In order to solve it and make proper dimension for sword parts, this time I used as reference picture of real sword. link -( larp.swords24.eu/images/produc… ). So I think it just has to be right now. Bproblem is that handle is too fat and then blade looks dwarfed.

2. Front handle is nonsense. Well, We can speak if my version of this part is nonsene or not but there are swords in real world which have this feature. Swords like that can be found on historical webpages and I also saw some documents on historical channel demonstrates this kind of sword.


P.S.2

I did update of this concept with better proportions and new background -> peterku.deviantart.com/art/God…


Bye.
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Comments: 83

peterku In reply to ??? [2013-09-24 08:25:37 +0000 UTC]

And one more point. I used to have problem with right dimensions with sword. So as reference I used real sword in this case to hit good length. 

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peterku In reply to ??? [2013-09-24 08:21:23 +0000 UTC]

tnx mate. One point. Ornaments parts are made through  displacement map. There is not any special specular map on these parts.  

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xitel [2013-09-20 20:48:41 +0000 UTC]

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Firstly, I'm glad to see you do something a bit less futuristic. Much as I admittedly like sci-fi swords, as you said the classics are classic for a reason. The texturing is very high quality, and the shape of the terzo and foible is very clean, and comes to a very neat point. The spear-tip shape of the foible in particular is something I have always enjoyed, as opposed to the much more angular version you often see. The hilt actually appears long enough to use both hands, while the pommel looks as though it could feasibly be used for striking.

Unfortunately, my big sticking point is the ricasso. It appears to be a separate piece from the blade itself, and is overly long. Generally a ricasso is actually shaped from the blade itself, to avoid having too many parts that can be damaged or degraded. It also is almost as long as the hilt itself, and extends from the forte and partially into the terzo. This robs the sword of its ability to be used for chopping, which is what the broadsword was primarily designed for. On top of that, the small notches between where the blade narrows and the ricasso begins would end up making parrying a strike far more difficult, as the opponent's blade wouldn't be able to slide and lock with the crossguard as easily. Finally, the blade becomes very narrow inside the ricasso, which defeats the purpose of a broadsword.

Speaking of the crossguard, I do enjoy its simplicity in terms of overall shape. Too many people make crossguards into strange and impractical pieces of decoration that wouldn't be able to properly stop a blade. The slight upturn to yours enable the wielder to more easily control an opponent's sword without breaking a parry. I do feel like it could be slightly longer, to fit the overall length of the sword, but that would be more of an aesthetic choice.

In all, I really enjoy this sword. It's very simple without being boring, making it look like a sword that someone would actually use, as opposed to hanging on a mantle.

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armbusk [2013-09-19 15:39:53 +0000 UTC]

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first critique anyways, i personally really like the coloring and the shading in this 3d image and the sword it self is very nice, but i personally like a slight ammount of beeing able to see it beeing used in real life and i'm sorry but taht front handle bugs me personally it just seems illogical as a saramonial sword it makes sense, anyways the sword it self is sadly alittle generic despite how pritty it looks so it dosen't have that much of an artistic impact in my book that is and i think there's room for improvement maybe a few extra things to make it stand out from the rest hope you find this critique fair and keep on beeing awesome

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leamoric In reply to armbusk [2013-09-20 21:09:15 +0000 UTC]

I liked the sword a lot, including the front handle as it can be used to break fragile blades. The only thing that got my attention is that the pommel is a bit small for a blade this size... I get the feeling that this blade would be a bit unwieldy with a pommel that small and a front handle...

The looks of the blade is awesome, tho.


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ltp15 In reply to armbusk [2013-09-20 00:57:21 +0000 UTC]

Larger European swords often did have a front handle although admittedly there were usually a second set of quillons or cross guard (the bit that points out to the right and left of the blade). These were used for fights at a closer range, when it was used like a small spear. Here is a reference www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiD3cI….

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armbusk In reply to ltp15 [2013-09-21 10:06:04 +0000 UTC]

well i know german swords did it alot though the front handles would be smaller and the sword ALOT bigger

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ltp15 In reply to armbusk [2013-09-21 12:50:06 +0000 UTC]

I’m not saying the design is historically accurate. I’m just pointing out that some swords did have a similar design.

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armbusk In reply to ltp15 [2013-09-21 22:14:24 +0000 UTC]

ah ok then my mistake

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peterku In reply to ltp15 [2013-09-20 06:13:51 +0000 UTC]

tnx for support

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Shadow696 In reply to armbusk [2013-09-19 20:01:38 +0000 UTC]

I partially agree with that critique in the sense that the front handle seems a bit weird. Although, only after it was pointed out in the critique is when I noticed that it doesn't start from the base of the hilt but slightly above it. If it was attached directly to the hand guard part or maybe was a leather or cloth wrapping then it would look a bit better to me.
As for the seeing it in action part, I think the heads on presentation and the view when not held are much better. This way you can see more of the weapon without a character blocking the view which makes sense since the whole focus supposed to be on the weapon.

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peterku In reply to armbusk [2013-09-19 16:49:47 +0000 UTC]

And that front handle - I personally like it. because it allows to hold it by both hands and use it as a short short pike when there is not enough space for swinging. Dont now how to handle sword just saw it in some historical document on TV. bye.

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peterku In reply to armbusk [2013-09-19 16:43:48 +0000 UTC]

dont worry to be critical on my work. i always take it in positive ways. 

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r34lover [2017-03-29 14:27:49 +0000 UTC]

If this is fake and is 3D, I can't tell the difference between what's real and what's fake anymore. the line's of distinguishment have finally faded.

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peterku In reply to r34lover [2017-03-31 05:33:36 +0000 UTC]

tnx mate. one of my older work. once you are experienced with render engine it is not too much difficult to make right setting for goo result. tnx once again. 

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NickBana [2017-02-07 19:26:31 +0000 UTC]

DEUS VULT

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dbbrs99 [2016-09-03 02:55:44 +0000 UTC]

Neat darkish job. get in touch, i need a couple for my books.

dbdotbrs99atgmaildotcom

DB.

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kostas4513 [2016-05-18 12:49:50 +0000 UTC]

can you tell me the lenght of the sword 

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peterku In reply to kostas4513 [2016-05-19 06:38:26 +0000 UTC]

dont remember. I took length from some real one but proportion are wrong due grip which is just too long making whole sword dwarfed. 

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PJHershey [2015-09-07 21:40:20 +0000 UTC]

OK...my opinion, I think the sword is quite original. I believe the section of the sword in front of the the cross-guard shows economical sense. That portion of a sword blade, in hand to hand (sword v sword) combat takes blows from an opponent and therefore something other than the blade itself there has some merit - sleeves, protective wrappings of brass, bronze, leather have been used there to protect the integrity of the blade itself - in times past. It also provides a gripping area in close quarters use of the sword. Since the 'pointy end' is used for thrusting into an opponent (soft tissue, between spaces on plate or mail) that portion of blade makes sense. Then the first half of blade being 'bare blade', sharpened for slashing cuts, for hewing into something (leg, arm, main body), that also works. The second half of a blade is usual there to provide 'length' to the blade...hence 'long sword' (26" - 36")...a much longer version...makes a 'great' (42"+)sword.  Without that length...you have a 'short' sword (16" - 22"). All useful variants of a sword, depends on what of fighting is being anticipated. (Those measures are approximates...).

The pommel, grip, cross guard area are fine (those are design elements here and do have their functional roles so 'style' is fine. (Perhaps slimmer in cross-section?). And since that whole two-thirds of the overall sword length is one element...its weight could be lessened by materials used, but equal to the blade's weight, providing the swordsmen a lighter overall sword - greater speed, controllable momentum.

The nice thing about this 'half-bladed' full length sword...one could conceivable make the blade interchangeable with a different style of blade (single edge Falchion style, a longer slimmer 'great sword' blade, a battle-axe/halberd insert piece, or even the same truncated blade but one of 'Damascus' layered steel or just a replacement blade - fresh, sharp, undamaged, the former blade being discarded or returned to shop for restoration.  The Handle/pommel/cross guard performing their roles as before.

I likes it!

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turbosuo [2014-01-02 17:40:58 +0000 UTC]

I see a lot of people saying that a front handle is nonsense, but the purpose of a front handle is to all the sword to be used in tighter quarters than normal.  While I know its possible (was even taught in medieval era) to grip the blade its self, having a front handle isn't so unreasonable.  Besides, rule of cool people, rule of cool.   What I love about your work is that you make such an effort to put some authenticity into it.  Great job! 

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peterku In reply to turbosuo [2014-01-03 07:37:55 +0000 UTC]

i think very same. As far as i know from documentaries they use sword in more ways. including holding the beginign of blade and use it as a short spike. what suprised me as well was fact that the most used weapon in battle was knife then short axe and mace. not swords.

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turbosuo In reply to peterku [2014-01-03 18:03:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I was suprised by how much the mace was used in battle.  But when you consider plate armor and how it cant protect from the massive focused impact like that, it does make sense.  What really blew my mind is that there were some sword masters that taught how to grip the blade with both hands and use the hilt as a hook to pull their opponent off balance or to disarm him and some times as a mace.  But I think the front handle is just emphasizing what made the long sword so popular, versatility. 

Still, the knife being the most used definitely comes as a surprise to me.

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matttm [2013-11-06 11:22:39 +0000 UTC]

Please  make a tutorial on your texturing!!

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Raazorfiend [2013-10-09 12:39:26 +0000 UTC]

I think it looks cool


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WulWhite [2013-10-09 12:19:44 +0000 UTC]

Great job on this,i like the way how you imagine the cold steel,the matte black is real nice. I wonder how you can imagine in your style the Claymore,and the Montante!

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peterku In reply to WulWhite [2013-10-11 06:12:09 +0000 UTC]

tnx mate. I know claymore and think it doesnt need anything. it js great as it is now...

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vidpoopstudios [2013-09-25 23:05:03 +0000 UTC]

this is why I want a forge.

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Heiryuu [2013-09-24 22:55:18 +0000 UTC]

the front handel is nonsense for what looks like a hand-and-a-half sword.  it would make more sense on a two handed blade. 

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peterku In reply to Heiryuu [2013-09-25 06:02:35 +0000 UTC]

I took dimensions from this sword: www.google.sk/imgres?client=op…



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Heiryuu In reply to peterku [2013-09-26 00:55:54 +0000 UTC]

ah it's a LARP sword. okay that explains the original design. 

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Kajm101 [2013-09-24 19:41:31 +0000 UTC]

Dude, for reality its really illogical sword, but for render its really good, you making yourself materials ? or how the hell you maked such a nice metal material. Good job, ale jestli je to meč tak bys mohl prodloužit čepel, protože takhle to s píš vypadá jako velkej nůž

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peterku In reply to Kajm101 [2013-09-25 07:18:53 +0000 UTC]

cau. dik. tak s materialmi uz mam skusenosti a tie ostatne veci. som dopisal do popisu pod obrazkom. Dlzka je ok. musi byt lebo proporcie som zobral z realneho meca. Aj proporciu toho predneho drzadla. 


P.


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ShiftingEater [2013-09-24 04:31:44 +0000 UTC]

Wow that is amazing!

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peterku In reply to ShiftingEater [2013-09-24 08:25:59 +0000 UTC]

tnx 

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Shadowi [2013-09-21 18:31:11 +0000 UTC]

Looks pretty solid all I can think of is that it might look and feel a bit more interesting/better if the actual grip material/texture would show to be different than the rest of the handle

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peterku In reply to Shadowi [2013-09-22 07:13:58 +0000 UTC]

at first I have leather onn grip then change it to steel in order to have this one.

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Axdwy [2013-09-21 18:23:48 +0000 UTC]

want it! NOW!!

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Extraintelligence [2013-09-20 21:26:17 +0000 UTC]

None shall pass!


I'm not even going to bother saying "Awesome job" any more. Awesome seems to be your only setting; you can't possibly do less.

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peterku In reply to Extraintelligence [2013-09-22 09:40:06 +0000 UTC]

lol. tnx you.

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Soulslayer317 [2013-09-20 18:01:43 +0000 UTC]

ooh, I like that !

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mondspeer [2013-09-20 13:33:12 +0000 UTC]

You are right, it looks awesome in high res. 


Has a deadly look to it, I agree to :~armbusk about the extra handle in front of the crossbar. This would not be very practicable in combat ... and even if you don't use it double handed, it is likely to move the swords balance point to far from the hilt.


Nevertheless, a very impressing work of art.

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peterku In reply to mondspeer [2013-09-22 07:13:03 +0000 UTC]

tnx you.

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mondspeer In reply to peterku [2013-09-22 20:06:41 +0000 UTC]

Your are welcome.

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TheInkPages [2013-09-20 11:04:41 +0000 UTC]

THAT's a 3D model?! I thought it was a photograph of a real sword you made. Hat's off to you, it looks soooooooo real! Love it more than a lot.

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wrox59 [2013-09-20 09:53:27 +0000 UTC]

Very nice work!

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sexyFiren [2013-09-20 09:19:01 +0000 UTC]

nice work


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GEN-12 [2013-09-20 06:51:43 +0000 UTC]

Nice swords!

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peterku In reply to GEN-12 [2013-09-20 08:30:50 +0000 UTC]

tnx you.

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flame418 [2013-09-20 06:26:10 +0000 UTC]

Nice!

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