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CyberSamurai270 [2018-07-10 17:46:05 +0000 UTC]
The hardest person for me to forgive is myself...
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Rogue-Ranger In reply to CyberSamurai270 [2018-07-12 03:54:24 +0000 UTC]
It's natural for people to blame themselves. Regret is actually how we learn. If we never feel bad about anything we do, we'd actually be horrible people after a while, so this shows you care. It's just that there are two approaches. One is to carry the past around like some burden and the other is to face it and learn from it.
The challenge is that it often feels like we're facing it when it haunts us, but we're actually letting it control us. You have to step back and take a calm view and analyze what you struggle to forgive yourself over.
For example, I'd constantly replay things in my head I could have changed or done differently. Maybe if I had kept a better eye on the cats or avoided this or that, they'd be alive. Maybe if I'd warned my best friend and his mom, they'd be alive. If I hadn't led someone on, he wouldn't have gotten mad, leading to a series of tragic consequences. And on and on. But the truth is I can't change the past. I can't just relive it and rewrite it. No, I can only learn from it so I don't do it again.
So long as it haunts you, you haven't let the lesson sink in. Will you do things differently now? Have you learned? If yes, then the regret has served its purpose and it's time to move on.
Forgiving yourself means accepting responsiblity and admitting you have regrets, but then treating them as lessons. Then they stop being burdens because they have positive value. Yes, even things that have haunted you can have a positive value if they're lessons. If you burned your finger but that experience means you avoided fire that could burn down your home, that negative experience had a positive outcome. And it changed from negative to positive because you changed.
So give yourself some credit for a lesson learned. You can't undo the past, but you can make the future at least a little better.
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cinncinntanbird In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-08-09 03:08:35 +0000 UTC]
There are times I cannot forgive myself, for example on the incident in the recent note I have sent you.
But I try my best...
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Rogue-Ranger In reply to cinncinntanbird [2018-08-13 05:54:15 +0000 UTC]
Would you forgive someone else if they did the same thing as you? If you love them, you would, so maybe the first step is learning to love yourself the way God and your friends do.
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cinncinntanbird In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-08-18 23:47:20 +0000 UTC]
But...would you forgive a person who used to be very horrible and reckless? Would you forgive her even if she has hidden some of her worst mistakes? Would you forgive her if she lied?
It’s okay either way. I will accept your answer no matter what it is.
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cinncinntanbird In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-08-31 03:48:28 +0000 UTC]
Of course, I will always understand.
You are a very kind, compassionate, and amazing person.
I just hope I can support you in the same way you support me...not just this day...but whenever you need some support or comfort...I want to care about you the same way you care about me.
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cinncinntanbird In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-10-09 01:22:46 +0000 UTC]
I am glad you could feel it...but unfortunately, I may not always be there online. I am still happy to send you my joy and my care.
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cinncinntanbird In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-08-13 19:00:32 +0000 UTC]
I would...of course I would.
Just yesterday, there was a girl online who has gotten angry at me, she falsely-accused me, she misinterpreted one of my comments as “offensive” and “heartless”...even though I meant nothing like that.
She told me to Shut the f*** up, to find something else to do, and that I am truly a heartless and disgusting prick.
But I forgave her.
There’s no use for me to hate her or be angry at her. I heard that she has been harassed in the past...I just wish her to be safe.
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FluffyKyubey42 [2018-03-04 04:35:46 +0000 UTC]
Revenge and grudges are delicious.
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Truth-lover3712 [2018-02-09 02:26:47 +0000 UTC]
God forgives, yes. But only those who repent!
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SuiteSwede [2018-02-09 00:00:31 +0000 UTC]
Ah yes, all the times god has been forgiving, like Killing thousands and thousands of isrealites for eating the birds he provided as meat, or the innocent egyptian children that were mercilessly slaughtered because of their parents decisions. Or the children that were slaughtered by mother bears because they made fun of a bald prophet. Yup, sure is an aspiring figure to look up to.
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KryptikSpook [2018-02-08 13:22:25 +0000 UTC]
Forgive abusers? Never.
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Rogue-Ranger In reply to KryptikSpook [2018-02-09 00:17:25 +0000 UTC]
It's not always easy to let resentment go. Everyone's different, but I've found for myself that forgiveness is letting go of past abuses and hurt and taking back my life by moving on from the pain that exists solely inside myself and therefore was my own to let go of. It was the path to healing and no longer letting what others did control my life. Maybe it's different for you. I'm not you, so I don't know.
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KryptikSpook In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-02-09 00:22:35 +0000 UTC]
Forgiveness is excusing someone elses shitty actions. I fail to see how this results in anything beneficial for ones self, quite the opposite in fact as it empowers those doing wrong and lets them know they can get away with it because they'll be forgiven, and they then fall under the impression that if someone doesnt forgive them that's their victim's fault and not their own.
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Rogue-Ranger In reply to KryptikSpook [2018-02-09 11:03:29 +0000 UTC]
Forgiveness: letting go of resentment, anger and hurt over past offenses.
Appeasement: to yield or concede to the belligerent demands of another in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles.
I met someone else before who thinks forgiveness is appeasement and would repeat the definition of appeasement no matter how many times I spelled out the definition of forgiveness. They changed their username a few times and only ever commented to point out disapproval. You aren't by any chance someone who has had this exact same conversation with me before, are you?
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KryptikSpook In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-02-09 11:09:21 +0000 UTC]
Definition of forgive
forgave play \fər-ˈgāv, fȯr-\; forgivenplay \fər-ˈgi-vən, fȯr-\; forgiving
transitive verb
1: to cease to feel resentment against (an offender) : pardon forgive one's enemies
2a : to give up resentment of or claim to requital (see requital 1) for forgive an insult
b : to grant relief from payment of forgive a debt
So not entirely wrong, however how does that not enable someone doing something terrible to you or others?
I'm not the only one who thinks this, i'm sure thousands would be appauled at the idea of forgiving someone who beat them, raped them, emotionally or mentally damaged them etc. When that person does not deserve to be enabled or to feel like they are doing no wrong.
Do i sense resentment? I have talked to you before but i don't recall a conversation with you going like that.
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Rogue-Ranger In reply to KryptikSpook [2018-02-10 04:02:59 +0000 UTC]
Let's just agree we have different definitions of forgiveness, because you literally just pasted three definitions and then went on to define it as "enabling" someone hurting others and that it means they did nothing wrong, points that contradict both what I consider forgiveness and the definitions you pasted.
A couple years ago, someone came to my page to comment only on what he didn't like and then on my profile how I support anti-LGBT people. I showed him why that wasn't true and He eventually apologized for being offended by things I never said. Later, he returned with a new username and we recreated the exact same conversations, this time him claiming no progress had ever been made for LGBT rights. Just like you, he picked out things he didn't like and commented to complain before going to my profile to say I support anti-LGBT people again. He defined forgiveness the same way you do exactly. Here's a summary of how our conversion on that went:
R: "Forgiveness is for you. It's you letting go of the anger, since it only affects you."
K: "You want me to tell people they did nothing wrong and to just keep on doing it."
R: "No. Forgiveness means that someone did something wrong. Otherwise it wouldn't be forgiveness. You tell them exactly what hurt you and why, but since your anger only affects you, you tell yourself you're not a victim."
K: "So I tell them they did nothing wrong to enable their abuse?"
R: "No. That's not forgiveness. They did something wrong. You moving on from the past is forgiveness."
K: "You want me to kiss their ass."
R: "No. You personally take your life back and move on. You tell this to yourself, since it's your life. Forgiveness is for you. They don't even need to know."
K: "So I should go tell people their hateful views are great?"
Perhaps you can understand why I don't want to recreate that conversation. Let's just say we see forgiveness differently and let it go.
A lot of people don't believe in soulmates, but I do and I think you and this other person are proof. If I could find his current username, I suspect you'd find you both immediately click. The previous two usernames were HappySinner and Ghoul-Kin, if that helps.
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KryptikSpook In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-02-10 05:11:21 +0000 UTC]
Ok maybe im phrasing it wrong.
Enabling may not be the definition of forgiving someone, BUT, that's the result of forgiving someone who has done damage that does not deserve forgiveness.
You're cheeky, and to my knowledge soul mates dont have to be exactly the same so uh...? No. Im happy with the partner i have.
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