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Note: Please don't say anything negative about Alpha and Omega on here, even if I agree that adding more could make it better than it was.
I'm not asking for your personal opinion of it.
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Why is it that some people can't respect the artist(s) purpose?
Purpose is something very important. It will always be an excuse and it's also how we get different things. And yes, slightly original still counts as it's another way to create yet a new result as a whole. E.g. Making a Super Mario Bros hack where your Megaman, exploring the Mushroom kingdom. < As a whole, I never seen this happen before.
I remember catching people calling things in a movie "flaws" only because it's not there thing (I.e. Dancing in a wolf movie, art direction, etc).. Just because they had bias hatred toward it. He/she goes out and calls it a "flaw" just because he's a hater; disrespecting the artist's intention/purpose, and there theme.
Rather than improving a work that exist, those kind of people think "better" by changing (Rather than improving) it to match there own desire.
...It's like claiming an anime movie being better by getting rid of the anime style.. You know, because the person hates anime.
Or it's like when IGN goes out and says "Too much water" and gives it a lower score.
I was so pissed off at how someone promotes hatred that's based off there own dislike. Honestly, when people go out and argue something negative that's based off there own bias, then your asking for trouble.
Here, let me give out a horrible, offensive 'review' on a movie real fast (It's a joke review, not a serious review):
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Alpha and Omega
1/10
Why does this movie have a funny wolf? I HATE HUMPHREY, (Though everyone else likes him, and the artist wanted to make him for people to enjoy), he's a flaw, why? Because I (The wrong audience) hates him! And I hate most of the artist's intention in the movie!
Flaws:
- Humphrey
- Canada
- The color grey
- Too much land
- Dancing
- Fantasy
- Trees
- Love
Because I don't like these kinds of things, A&O is a disaster. And that's a fact everybody!!
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See that? See how unfair this so-called "critique" is? This doesn't improve it, all it does is try to ruin something for what it is, and changes it to something it's not.
It's like attacking (Or lowering a score) an 'anime' movie and bringing out the art-style (anime) because you don't like anime.
Hell, isn't critique about adding more stuff often?
Maybe... the movies aren't your kind of thing?
If those type of people were smart, they would know the difference between a personal opinion, than an actual good critique.
If a hater gets to bring out what he hates as a "flaw", then don't forget the fans who brings them out as good. Yet, I would be on the fans side because that was the artist(s) INTENTION.
My point is: Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it a flaw on it's self.
Learn to know the difference between your personal opinion than the content that's not even made for you, or partly.
Going out and trying to argue to people (While many people like it possibly too) by claiming something being "bad" just because you don't like it is rude, and bigoted.
Not anything different than going out and saying 'Your sexual identity is GROSSz!" just because it's not your thing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique
"Another proposed distinction is that critique is never personalized nor ad hominem , but is instead the analyses of the structure of the thought in the content of the item critiqued. [5] This analysis then offers by way of the critique method either a rebuttal or a suggestion of further expansion upon the problems presented by the topic of that specific written or oral argumentation. Even authors that believe there might be a distinction suggest that there is some ambiguity that is still unresolved. [5]"It used to say "Never upon personal opinion" I think.
If bias is "OK", then critique is no longer important.
EVERYTHING would be a "flaw" if so.
Comments: 18
Fail-Seeker [2016-07-30 03:51:29 +0000 UTC]
Are you aware this will just encourage your critics to give negative comments?
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lunar-felines [2015-12-24 02:06:53 +0000 UTC]
someone said this to me once
"UGH THIS SUCKS! TRY BETTER! just a little critique"
lmao seriouslyΒ
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Leopold002 [2015-04-17 22:39:47 +0000 UTC]
Well put!
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NictheWerecatqueen [2015-02-21 17:50:23 +0000 UTC]
I take constructive criticism but NOT complaints about one of my favorite fanfictions or fan characters
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LordMasterJohn [2015-02-09 23:14:37 +0000 UTC]
Well, A&O was tecnically a bad Film
(It got 1.7 in Rotten Tomatoes and 3.7 in Metacritic)
They critizised the ClichΓ© storyline and the bad CGI.
And also how it failed to perform on some if its strongest points.
they overall called it one of the worst animated films of the year.
(altough they said it was a decent kids movie, and some of the characters were appealing)Β
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wwwarea In reply to LordMasterJohn [2015-02-10 02:57:09 +0000 UTC]
Critics can be bias. And the reason why I have a problem with RT is because people act like that's a "fact" board when it's nothing but random opinions maybe.
Yet, the user rating there was actually '3/5' which isn't even a bad rating.
IMDB is over half (5.0), and yet, RT is only about 20,000 people and such.
Well, honestly they should of looked at the purpose more, and the fact is that there was a lot of people who liked it, and not only I disagree about the bias claims some critics claim, but they should of been more credibility too even if I don't agree with certain 'brought outs'. Yet, the movie was as success for sales. And even the movie has it's cult following. < I can tell because it's kind of "strange" how there seems to be a warship of this movie that made the knowledge of it alive; keeping it non-forgotten (The other 2010 animation movie about a bear was pretty much forgotten though).
So I don't agree with the critics (or mainly), they sound very bias a lot. The only thing I agree that truly suggest real improvement is if they added more to the film. I am also still depending on the 'jokes' and 'humor' though too. xD
I could suggest not to base on what "good" and "bad" because a critic(s) said so honestly. xD Unless maybe they have a good point that doesn't attack any purposes?
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LordMasterJohn In reply to wwwarea [2015-02-10 03:08:51 +0000 UTC]
Wow,
you defend this movie with your life O_O
In those sites, People give their sincere opinion, with good points
Check it out:
www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alphaβ¦
Im not trying to make you dislike the movie,
Its Ok if you like it.
(I think it was kinda funny at some parts)
But I think youre going too far by calling any negative critique on this movie Bias.
In there, People actually give their arguments on WHY it is a bad movie.
(Theres obviously those people that are biased in some of their points of view)
Im just here to tell you that...
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wwwarea In reply to LordMasterJohn [2015-02-10 04:07:42 +0000 UTC]
What's wrong with that?
And I checked them before, many of them are just hypocritical. Sorry, but I'm not going to agree with a bias review that rates it all the way down, just because the wrong targeted audience think "we seen this so many times".. Especially those really bad ones who brings out an art-style as a "flaw", or any other styles or themes, just because it's not there thing, or that one who said that it must be "R-rated".
Sorry, but many of them directly attack the purpose of the artist (Critique abuse), and suggest it to be something different just because there nostalgia (or other personality somehow) seen a similar thing before. The only point I agree to be good is suggestions to add more.
Hell, if the purpose was also targeted for adults also, then maybe they could add stuff to make more adults happy? But it's too far to rate it 1/5 just because of the 'adult thing'.
There are also other people who liked it, and judged the critics back, and I believe they (The fans) can make a good point. Many of the fans (The audience) gave there feedback and show the correct audience and such.
"But I think youre going too far by calling any negative critique on this movie Bias.
In there, People actually give their arguments on WHY it is a bad movie.
(Theres obviously those people that are biased in some of their points of view)"
They are not critique, as they try to change the purpose of many things.
But they are bias. And people have the right to disagree with them and argue. How am I going too far? It's pretty bias to bring out an art-style as a flaw, just because "They don't like it".
An art-style is never a flaw, nor is a theme, or any other targeted purpose (Kids or certain adults).
I say it's bias to bring out an "anime" style as a flaw, just because of some anime haters.
Just because they state "why" doesn't automatically mean there right.
Seriously, if those critics were "right", then critique is dead.
Yet, the animation of the movie looked mostly fine. It was often smooth, and very good as a small company. Some people judged it because it was a cartoon (That was the point of the animation), and that's pretty bias to bring out.
It wouldn't be bias if they were trying to make the animation more 'realism' but that wasn't Crest's intention.
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LordMasterJohn In reply to wwwarea [2015-02-10 04:28:11 +0000 UTC]
Holy Crap man.
Calm down....
Some actually describe the flaws it has and explain why they didnt like it.
Not because its negative its bias.
I think those who you should stand up against are the haters, not those who sincerely think its bad.
Right now Ill just shut up and stick to my opinion
(Its up to you if you like it, but youre being way too much overdefensive of the movie, even if youre right, and I force the WAY TOO MUCH)
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wwwarea In reply to LordMasterJohn [2015-02-10 04:51:41 +0000 UTC]
I thought I was calm? I always type a lot as possible many times..
If they call something a "flaw" but was based off: "personalized" or "ad hominem", or maybe others. Then I find there claims to be flaws themselves.
I do, but critics can still be criticized back. Yet, haters are sort of the same as the critics: Haters often go out and claim something "as bad" because it's not there kind of thing or that they blindly listen to a reviewer that's just a personal opinion..
What's the difference between "This is a flaw because I find this stupid" and "This is a flaw because the wrong audience (haters) will freak out".
People can argue why they 'sincerely' think it's bad but it's possible that an argument like that can still be bias, not really respecting the intentions of the artist(s).
Besides, aren't all haters in a way "sincere" based off there own personal dislike?
I'm sorry but I don't see how I'm going to far.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out that critics can be bias and I don't see how I'm "over defensive" of this movie. I'm just arguing.
Hell, I even agreed that this movie isn't 100 perfect, but styles, themes, and even story purpose it's self isn't flaws. Like maybe the animation was a bit choppy, if so, then I do believe that's a flaw maybe.
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Blockdasher91 [2015-02-09 15:28:33 +0000 UTC]
So you are against controversy too?
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wwwarea In reply to Blockdasher91 [2015-02-10 02:58:57 +0000 UTC]
Like when people disagree about proper critique for example? Yes. Opinions can be judged if they use there opinion as an argument.
If all bias dislikes were "allowed" in the idea of critique, then this reputation of "critique being important" would be destroyed.
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Blockdasher91 In reply to wwwarea [2015-02-10 06:16:11 +0000 UTC]
And so the whole thing about it when is comes to even "suggestive themes"
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wwwarea In reply to Blockdasher91 [2015-02-10 07:38:38 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry but what do you mean?
"Suggestive Themes", like sexual themes?
I don't know if I'm thinking right (guessing) but if a person who decided to click on that, then called it a flaw because it's not there kind of theme, then that's also a problem.
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Blockdasher91 In reply to wwwarea [2015-02-10 15:47:17 +0000 UTC]
Indeed. (and also I mean like discrimination, ambush, violence and such )(Sorry If I sound a bit off but I totally agree to you)
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wwwarea In reply to Blockdasher91 [2015-02-11 04:28:48 +0000 UTC]
Oh alright. xD Yeah, anything that pretty much violates the Golden Rule upsets me. Or any claim that's negative to a purpose work, identity, lifestyles, life freedom choices, etc.
Speaking of this, I got reminded of how the A&O (Some of the active side I mean) fandom complained against someone's own FF work, just because it was non-canon and more different.
I bring it out and they use that "My opinionz" crap as an excuse to be rude. When I bring them out (Another opinion I guess), they complain. Eh
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Blockdasher91 In reply to wwwarea [2015-02-11 06:11:19 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. People sure think too deep and be so hypocrite about things these days.
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