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Published: 2017-10-26 01:56:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 8019; Favourites: 71; Downloads: 45
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Description Put this up while I procrastinate on full althis worlds. I might start making patches instead.

A brief description on the government types, to avoid confusion:

Liberal Democracy: A government with a binding, but flexibile, constitution which focuses on the ideals of protecting justice, liberty, and property. The state is organised through a democratic republic, which means local divisions vote for representatives who fill a proportional legislature, as well as a direct vote for an executive. Similar to what OTL Democrats want in the United States.

Direct Democracy: A government with a binding, but easily bended, constitution which passes legislation with a directly voted executive, whereas all other members of government are appointed. Highly Progressive, in the sense of OTL 1920's American Progressivism.

Electoral Republic: A government which focuses on the power of local divisions, as well as the power of those local divisions. Its strict constitution binds a weak executive who rules over a representative government, where local divisions send representatives elected by limited methods, such as only by certain ethnicities or classes.

Presidential Dictatorship: A government where the electors, which are elected in similar ways to the Electoral Republic, elect the executive, also like the Electoral Republic, but with some differences in the role and power of the executive. During his term, or for life, the executive has total legislative control, as well as power over the courts.

Dictatorship: A government which lacks all forms of democratic or republican involvement.

Parliamentary Democracy: A government which has no constitution, but has a set of precedents. The government is run by the largest party in the legislature, filled by representatives from local districts elected in open ballots.
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Comments: 18

sawirros [2021-03-02 17:14:24 +0000 UTC]

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Char246 [2020-07-19 21:26:55 +0000 UTC]

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gilbertboys [2018-01-26 18:25:48 +0000 UTC]

How did the ethnic distinction between northerner and southerner happen? Would they still just be standard issue white?

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Wyyt In reply to gilbertboys [2018-01-27 17:13:02 +0000 UTC]

What is "standard issue white"? I don't understand.

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gilbertboys In reply to Wyyt [2018-02-20 23:21:33 +0000 UTC]

your general anglo-irish-german mix that comprises about 60% of the modern U.S
my earlier comment was just pointing out that now real genetic distinction could occur in such closely related populations in such a short amount of time.

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Kraut007 [2017-11-01 19:22:35 +0000 UTC]

Very detailed and diverse. 
I can´t wait to see the AH scenario proper. 

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Wyyt In reply to Kraut007 [2017-11-01 20:37:00 +0000 UTC]

Although I doubt I'll make one.

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Kraut007 In reply to Wyyt [2017-11-02 01:04:22 +0000 UTC]

Oh no! That would depress me for like 30 seconds!  
Anyway, it´s a nice divided states map.

So do I get all the minor nations, that are not named on the map,  right? 
From East to West:
*New York Empire 
*Maryland Free State 
*Republic of Appalachia 
*República de Florida 
*Minnesota Territory
*Iowa Territory
*Missouri 
*Republic of Lakotah 
*Great Plains Federation 
*Republic of (Greater) Nebraska 
*State of Sequoyah

Reminds me of "Crimson Skies"  

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Wyyt In reply to Kraut007 [2017-11-02 02:43:49 +0000 UTC]

*New York Union.
*Republic of Maryland.
*Confederate States of Appalachia.
*República de Florida (Republic of Florida)
Good job picking up on this one!
*Minnesota Republic.
*Republic of Nebraska.
I'm afraid this world put Nebraska in a different place.
*United Republic of Missouri.
*Lakotah Confederation.
Something different, due to the combination of of tribes that have to live in harmony there.
*Montana Federation.
*Midwest Confederation.
Used to be united with Montana, but split due mostly to Columbian influence.
*Sequoyah Confederation.

I'd never heard of that game. Interesting!

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Kraut007 In reply to Wyyt [2017-11-02 17:25:48 +0000 UTC]

Well, "Crimson Skies" is a game franchise and fictional universe.
It´s background story is about the USA and Canada falling  apart in the early 1930s due to the Wallstreet crash, an influenza pandemic and the internal conflict about prohibition. Despite mostly just being an excuse to have a  game scenario with air pirates and air militias fighting each over freight zeppelins during the mid-1930s, it is actually quite nicely and detailed written. 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_…

Crimson Skies Map

Crimson Skies: Flags of North America 1934

I got mostly into this universe because of a really well-written fanfic (Sadly, only in German...but Google Translate might made it readable for you).

www.fanfiktion.de/s/4ada088200…
www.fanfiktion.de/s/4ada088200…

Your divided  US map looks a little more like 19th century break-up, correct? 

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Wyyt In reply to Kraut007 [2017-11-02 23:59:31 +0000 UTC]

Nun ja, meine deutsch Fähigkeiten nicht alles Gute sind. Aber, mit nur ein wenig Hilfe am Meiste ich verstanden kann.

Yes, I loosely based this on an alt Mexican-American War which ended without an absorption of the lost Mexican territories. As well as the Civil War going better for the South and far stranger. A good POD is probably 1835, which Texas gaining more in their revolution and independence from Mexico.

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AvatarVyakara [2017-10-31 00:54:08 +0000 UTC]

So how much difference is there between the different British-descent ethnic groups in this case?

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Wyyt In reply to AvatarVyakara [2017-10-31 21:44:14 +0000 UTC]

Although it is true they all once spoke American English, the divergence of the Yankee English and Southron English has marked, for some, the clearest difference.

Yankee English and Southron English are distinct from one another, not only in usage, but in implication. They are mostly mutually intelligible, but offer some difficulty, as Southrons (Dixons, Appalachians, Floridians, Texans, and, as much as the others may dislike it, Negroes) speak the general Southron English, the Yankees (Yankees, New English, New Yorkers, and Pioneers) stick with Yankee English. These are both descendants of American English, which still lives on out in the West. This language separates these groups.

Floridians are closer to a Hispanic race than a British-descent one in this world, as Floridian overlaps racial lines. Although it is true most Floridians are primarily of European descent, the acception of Amerindians and Negroes, as well as other Spanish and southern European into the Floridian group make it distinct.

So, in short: language for most, some ethnic ties for others.

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AvatarVyakara In reply to Wyyt [2019-05-20 13:21:10 +0000 UTC]

...cool!

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SoaringAven [2017-10-26 13:49:14 +0000 UTC]

How do your "political entities" differ from states?

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Wyyt In reply to SoaringAven [2017-10-26 23:52:43 +0000 UTC]

Simply another word for independent state. Like how the United States and Canada are separate political entities.

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SoaringAven In reply to Wyyt [2017-10-28 12:58:45 +0000 UTC]

Well yes but your "political entities" contain several states. Is that like client states?

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Wyyt In reply to SoaringAven [2017-10-28 16:49:41 +0000 UTC]

There are states influenced by the others, whose only importance is their reliance and alliance on the greater country. So yeah, like client states.

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