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Published: 2018-07-07 18:33:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 33421; Favourites: 212; Downloads: 178
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Description The 62 States, 4 Territories, and 1 Commonwealth of the United States of America.

Highlights:

The Bahamas and most of OTL Canada were annexed in the much more successful War of 1812.

Trinidad was annexed by the US from Britain during the Oregon Crisis of 1846 by a particularly zealous admiral who thought the US and Britain were at war when reports came in of ships firing on eachother.

Hawaii voluntarily became a protectorate of the United States in 1898 and was invaded by the Japanese during the Great War (1938-1946), who killed the members of the royal family and brutalized the population. After the war the US formalized its rule over the island, but left it a Commonwealth like OTL Puerto Rico.

Cuba, the Philippines, and Puerto Rico were never US territories because the Spanish American War never happened. The US sent its navy to intimidate Spain to recognize Cuban independence, however.

Panama became a state in 1979. The region had seen far more development under US dominion than in OTL as part of the American "Caribbean Triangle," A policy to essentially provide naval containment of the islands in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico from, at first European colonial ambitions, and later Russian fascist infiltrators.

Taiwan (Formosa) was made an independent nation in the First China war, with the US guaranteeing its independence with a naval base and several thousand troops. The hope was to serve as a buffer between the Anglo-French colonies in China and the German and Japanese colonies. After the War the US formally annexed it and it achieved statehood in 1972.

Manifest Destiny ->

EDIT:Β Presidents of the United States
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YNot1989 In reply to ??? [2023-03-04 14:27:46 +0000 UTC]

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ParallelBotanist In reply to YNot1989 [2023-03-04 21:01:28 +0000 UTC]

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GMQUilmataalpha [2018-12-17 20:36:19 +0000 UTC]

so what states did we lose?

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YNot1989 In reply to GMQUilmataalpha [2018-12-17 20:57:30 +0000 UTC]

New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, California, and Nevada.

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GMQUilmataalpha In reply to YNot1989 [2018-12-17 21:34:13 +0000 UTC]

Dang it
No Las Vegas
And No Mormons
At least we still have NY

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Wolfboy180 In reply to GMQUilmataalpha [2018-12-23 19:27:21 +0000 UTC]

Actually, Mormons in OTL didn't emerge in Nevada; they moved there after being "evicted" from Illinois. Given Nevada's not a part of the US, I'd imagine they wouldn't choose to move there to set up their colony; it's more likely they'd settle in the states of Pawnee and Arapaho, or maybe stay in Illinois.

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GMQUilmataalpha In reply to Wolfboy180 [2018-12-23 20:31:23 +0000 UTC]

oh ok

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Tuskin38 [2018-11-29 16:28:28 +0000 UTC]

Why is New Brunswick called Nova Scotia here? Did the colonists who requested the Royal Charter decide to go there instead?

Edit: Oh wait, wasn't that entire area called Nova Scotia at one point in history?

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YNot1989 In reply to Tuskin38 [2018-11-29 17:48:56 +0000 UTC]

It was all called Nova Scotia at one point.

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Mobius57 [2018-10-12 06:57:53 +0000 UTC]

Virginia has some kind of tumor on it..

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PaulMH87 [2018-10-08 17:00:26 +0000 UTC]

Nice map, but no way California stays independent. With it's resources and ports the US will inevitably launch an "Operation California Freedom".

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GWNF74 [2018-09-15 16:49:19 +0000 UTC]

Born in Grande Prairie, Athabasca Territory here, now living in Calgary, Saskatchewan.

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LordTigeron [2018-09-03 12:09:57 +0000 UTC]

why is california white?

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YNot1989 In reply to LordTigeron [2018-09-03 16:02:16 +0000 UTC]

It was never annexed by the US. Mexicoheld onto it with different degrees of autonomy until the 1910s.

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LordTigeron In reply to YNot1989 [2018-09-03 19:46:53 +0000 UTC]

thanks mate

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Unownace [2018-08-15 14:28:02 +0000 UTC]

So, like...how is this an "improved timeline", exactly? I like being Canadian. XD

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YNot1989 In reply to Unownace [2018-08-15 15:51:58 +0000 UTC]

The First Nations are treated more like equals in this TL, Universal Healthcare is enacted by President Tommy Douglas in 1953 (and its much closer to the British NHS than in OTL). Slavery was abolished in the 1791 thanks to the Canadian states, and the New Deal was the product of President Mackenzie King.

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Unownace In reply to YNot1989 [2018-08-15 20:23:36 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but I'm still Canadian and always will be. The fact that Americans STILL seem to want to invade us is terrifying.

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YNot1989 In reply to Unownace [2018-08-16 03:12:07 +0000 UTC]

Eh, only jokingly... at least until theΒ Ogallala Aquifer runs dry and we need to take all that fresh water you got up there.

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Unownace In reply to YNot1989 [2018-08-16 03:15:50 +0000 UTC]

...Huh. I apologize, for some reason I wasn't paying attention and thought the guy causing a crap storm in response to this query was you. It's good to know that it WASN'T you.

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calexfc In reply to Unownace [2018-08-15 21:03:01 +0000 UTC]

Ugh, Canadians..

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Unownace In reply to calexfc [2018-08-15 21:06:53 +0000 UTC]

Okay wow you're insulting us because we don't want to be invaded? How very American of you.

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calexfc In reply to Unownace [2018-08-15 22:02:33 +0000 UTC]

Ugh.. I fucking hate Canadians. A nation of entitled people with a smug sense of superiority to Americans. Also love the fact that anyone who dislikes or evenΒ  has vague criticism of Canada is "American". How Canadian of you. I will take immense satisfaction when your nation becomes nothing more than a US puppet state and eventually gets annexed into America.

Edit: Very salty Canadian Nationalist, now are we?Β 

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Unownace In reply to calexfc [2018-08-15 22:05:37 +0000 UTC]

You just earned yourself a block, sir. Goodbye.

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Masterge77 [2018-08-13 00:21:10 +0000 UTC]

This is truly amazing!

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Unownace In reply to Masterge77 [2018-08-15 14:38:06 +0000 UTC]

...You see this is why every other country is afraid of America. XD

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Mars8844 [2018-07-20 22:37:04 +0000 UTC]

I don't think that the Innuit had a chance under the US, since what happened to the other American tribes.

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YNot1989 In reply to Mars8844 [2018-07-21 14:05:38 +0000 UTC]

In this TL Native Americans were given full cutizenship rights and their communities were recognized as legitimate local or in the case of the Iroquois and Lakota, state govenments. There are no reservations. There were some Indian Wars like in OTL but far more sporadic, and in most cases used by the US against European colonies.

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Voltron64 In reply to YNot1989 [2018-07-22 04:25:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, reading it and essentially Native Americans here were used as attack dogs against Tories, Spaniards, and the occasional Frenchman or Russian.

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criminalmammal [2018-07-20 11:05:35 +0000 UTC]

Was it intentional that the state of Ontario doesn't actually touch Lake Ontario at all?

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YNot1989 In reply to criminalmammal [2018-07-20 16:45:44 +0000 UTC]

Whoops! Good catch. I'll rename it Niagara.

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eddsworldbatboy1 [2018-07-16 00:50:32 +0000 UTC]

First thing that drew my eyes on this page was that theres a break in line for Saskatchewan then the border with Texas and Arkansas

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Magyaror [2018-07-08 20:36:16 +0000 UTC]

Vancouver island can be also called Nootka

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MelvWolfe [2018-07-07 22:30:25 +0000 UTC]

Washington is going to have two cities named "Vancouver"? That's going to get confusing especially if Vancouver Island becomes the state of Vancouver.

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YNot1989 In reply to MelvWolfe [2018-07-08 00:13:05 +0000 UTC]

Vancouver City isn't called that in this TL. Its called Arnoldstown in honor of Revolutionary War hero, military governor of Quebec, and first Secretary of War, Benedict Arnold.

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BluePurpleBadger In reply to YNot1989 [2018-07-08 16:08:13 +0000 UTC]

So in this TL Arnold didn't betray the revolution.

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YNot1989 In reply to BluePurpleBadger [2018-07-08 16:33:31 +0000 UTC]

No, he's one of the Revolution's greatest heroes (he almost was in this TL) and had he not died from his battle with gout he would have become President.

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GWNF74 [2018-07-07 21:10:19 +0000 UTC]

Saskatchewanite here, can compromise only as long as you got universal healthcare still eh? Otherwise let's July 1st and 4th both be holidays cause we're now the Canadian part of America the same way Siberia's Russian now I guess.

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polypsconglomeration In reply to GWNF74 [2024-10-06 21:25:49 +0000 UTC]

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YNot1989 In reply to GWNF74 [2018-07-08 00:12:09 +0000 UTC]

Universal Healthcare was adopted in the US in 1955 under President Tommy Douglas.

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GWNF74 In reply to YNot1989 [2018-07-08 17:46:16 +0000 UTC]

TOMMY DOUGLAS <3

Tommy Douglas is my hero.

I'm actually Alberta in real life but Calgary falls within SK borders here.

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YNot1989 In reply to GWNF74 [2018-07-08 19:12:27 +0000 UTC]

Check the link I just added in the description for the full list of American Presidents in this timeline.

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GWNF74 In reply to YNot1989 [2018-07-09 17:59:26 +0000 UTC]

Tommy Douglas, President of the Untied States of America.

Universal heathcare, for all your lawncare needs.

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nancyzatanna In reply to GWNF74 [2021-06-04 14:40:53 +0000 UTC]

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RavenHeart1984 [2018-07-07 19:14:05 +0000 UTC]

good job

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Hardwing [2018-07-07 19:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Interesting!

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dsfisher [2018-07-07 19:01:09 +0000 UTC]

Great timeline, one thing though, Puerto Rico didn't have any serious independence movements from Spain, in fact as far as Spanish colonies go, they were probably the most pleased with Spanish rule

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YNot1989 In reply to dsfisher [2018-07-07 20:49:01 +0000 UTC]

Changed it.

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AlexanderBranza In reply to dsfisher [2018-07-07 19:55:47 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. Even more, I doubt the Spanish government would feel intimidated by the US (they should, but OTL they considered their forces superior to the americans). By 1898 they have reorganized their forces in Cuba and have defeated the rebels in the western part of the island. The war was far from over, but the situation was going well for the spaniards. OTL it was Spain the one that declared war on the USA in response of their blockade of Cuba, thinking that it would be a short an easy war. In fact it was, but not in the way the spaniards thought.

Anyway, interesting timeline and beautiful map.

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nancyzatanna In reply to AlexanderBranza [2021-06-04 14:36:22 +0000 UTC]

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