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Published: 2011-01-05 00:03:50 +0000 UTC; Views: 11333; Favourites: 38; Downloads: 210
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This is a little something for a fellow futurist on future.wikia.comThis is based off of his World of Tomorrow Scenario
Basic scenario is that Canada rises to power in North America as the US falls into greater economic decline and the Breadbasket countries move north with the warming climate.
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Oh, and wouldn't they be some sort of Greater Honduras possessing Belize, Yucatan, the Chiappas, and other Mayan populated areas? May I also ask how much of the land is under only ten meters of water?
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I'm not sure, ask the author of this timeline, I just made the map.
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Wasn't it that many different tribes of Native Americans had pointed out that the Lakotah were making claims to the lands of other groups and that most of the Lakotah like being in the country they were already in?
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Yeah, but those claims are completely meaningless. Truth is what remains of the Native American population that still live in the reservations are basically welfare dependent and have almost no real authority over their own territory.
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Sino-Siberia, I'm familiar with the concept, it could happen. Orwell was first to introduce it as Eastasia, one of the three superpowers. Other two could emerge also, Eurasia after breakup of EU, which could end with forming of wider union with Russia and adjacent countries (Russia already formed ODKB - Collective Security Treaty Organisation, umbrella for future Eurasia). As of Oceania, it already exists in a way, through Anglo-American wing of NATO (USA, UK, Canada, Australia, maybe India and South Africa soon, since both are emerging).
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First, you forgot to add China and Russia into equation - Russia would sure want Alaska back, as well as lower part of Pacific coastline, once being part of Russian Empire's American Territories. Chinese also could claim their portion of West Coast, especially Seattle and northern California, and other areas with large Chinese/Asian populations.
Second, Mexico would also expand its territory (this is all just by looking at your map) absorbing both Baja and Aztlan in the north and Yucatan and rest of the Central America, including Panama, as strategically most important point.
Third, "Caribbean Warlords" assume that there would be constant anarchy going on? It doesn't seem logical, because the only reason why Caribbean is still part of the 3rd world - strong neighbor USA, keeps them from "moving up in the world". With American/British influence gone, Caribbean would rather form a strong Confederation of islands, with Cuba annexing Florida and leading this Confederation, with much help from China, which would become World Power No1 by 2020.
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Ok, I made it clear its not my timeline, but from what I understand the geographic split in Russia along with the receding coastlines of China drove the formation of what the creator calls Sino-Siberia, which is a major regional power in Asia. Also contrary to popular myth, it is unlikely that China will simply become the planet's Hyperpower by the 2020s. History teaches us they will either succumb to internal pressures and fracture in the early 2020s, or there will be a major war with the US around 2030 (assuming present rates of growth stay about the same comparably between the two powers).
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I see the Republic of Lakotah!!
It's nice to see some of the natives finally get something more than reservations, which are often the worse lands there are. >.<
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Anyone who has ever taken a drive through most of Nevada can say that with total confidence.
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I've always hated the artificial boundaries imposed on colonised land by the Colonial powers. Would it not have been easier to base states, or colonies, or dominions or whatever, on the existing borders and cultural areas? Surely this would have lead to less border conflicts and internal troubles. I would be interested in a map of North America, where the states were largely based on tribal areas, but representing the sorts of things that lead to the modern ones. Basically, the less straight lines the better.
A tribal province or nation was an idea I had been intending to add to the timeline, but had never decided on what forum it should take, or how to justify it's origin. Odd coincidence that you added Lakotah.
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I just thought that as the climate warmed the Dakotas would become major agricultural zones again, and the Lakota people might finally have some leverage as their lands become economically important. This scenario falls apart if Canadians are just as douchie to Native Americans as we were/are.
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Well considering that they set up Nunavut I suspect that another tribal area would be more likely, only problem is if there is simply too high a non native population in the area.
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I'm surprised Canada didn't also acquire the Maine-Vermont-Upstate New York tier too. That area actually has a large (French-speaking) Canadian population.
But excellent job on the map!
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Well basicly, the majority of the native population will have moved to Canada anyway, the New England states are home to the majority of the US population now, America having been reduced to an energy state mostly plastered with solar panels to supply Canada. Mexico and the other states on the map are in mostly the same situation (except they rely on geo-thermal primarily, and will eventually be anaxed by America when extreme weather and heat drive the remaining populations north.) With the exception of Canada (to a certain extent New England) and Patagonia the Americas are largely deserted, they are hit VERY hard by the change, much like Africa, south Asia and Oceania. It's only really Europe (Largely due to an artificial foresting effort, much like the added parts of the USA), Siberia, New Zealand, Tasmania, north & West Australia, sub Saharan Africa, and Antarctica that are left in a good state.
New England, in-case your wondering is kinda like the Mediterranean, but with worse weather in winter.
But yeah, really nice job! Would love to know what the thinking behind some of the sub divisions is. Nice job!
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Well there's the north western states that were annexed mid century, the rest are from separatist groups that broke away from the states themselves. The Lakota territory is essentially an autonomous state, and the what remained of South Dakota was ceded to the North upon annexation.
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I wasn't aware that you ever owned it between the Russians and the US.
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Oh, wait. You're right. Wow, do I not think before I comment. XD
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You get Washington and Oregon back (kinda sorta, the British briefly controlled it before we outbred them)
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Aha, yaay. XD
So I see, its a neat project regardless!
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The Lakota get their own state? Bet the Crow are thrilled.
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lol good observation, actually i think the Algonquins would be much more pissed since we're like infested with them here in Ontario
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