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Published: 2018-11-24 20:50:32 +0000 UTC; Views: 622; Favourites: 48; Downloads: 0
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Former GWR 'King' class 4-6-0 No. 6024 'King Edward I' makes history by being the first recorded 'King' class to enter Cornwall on May 9 1998, 94 years to the day since the 'City of Truro' record run. This is a tight close-up of 6024 entering Par, its terminus for the day. In GWR and BR days, the 'Kings' would come off their train at Plymouth, to be replaced by a locomotive with a lighter axle-loading. This would normally have been a 'County', 'Hall' or 'Grange' 4-6-0.Here you see steam exhausting from a small aperture between the blastpipes, this being the outlet for the four-cone brake ejector on these engines.
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Also NWR-2000 - Interesting discussion. When dealing with cars that have separate chassis, "the identity" is normally considered to be the chassis. Do I take it that the same argument does not apply to steam locomotive frames then?
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Why the "?"? The first part was a compliment, and then followed by a question about steam locomotive identities.
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About the last part, I don't know.
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Likewise, which is why I asked the question.
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I've purchased a 2012 publication of the "Kings" and crossed the part of where King Henry VI was being sold to Butlins and they were paying them for a full overhaul at the WR's Swindon Locomotive Works and they didn't want to. That confirms that they refurbished Caerphilly Castle there. I also found that there were some rumors that 6018 swapped identities with the class pioneer prototype, the iconic 6000 King George V, due to his frame cracking (a part of their flawed design features). I know I may sound like I'm going bananas, but I know for sure that King George V is King Henry VI. I know you may say "that's false information, buddy!", but to me, those rumors wouldn't have been brought up if somebody hadn't seen it.
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No I don't think you're going bananas, I heard the same rumour many years ago. Also that Butlins wanted to buy 6018 (mentioned in 'A History of the Butlin's Railways' by Peter Scott). I'm quite prepared to believe that 6000 is really 6018 but I doubt if we'll ever know for sure. When I saw 6000 at Laira at the 1972 open day I seem to recall that some of her motion parts were stamped '6020' (King Henry IV) so she could well be made up of parts from her scrapped sisters as with some other vintage locomotives. That's the nature of preservation - if you want to keep them running you have to repair and replace and source parts from other places so eventually the locomotive is no longer 'original' anyway.
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Quite so, but I very much doubt that, even if the truth were known, they would ever acknowledge a different identity for 6000. She is too famous. Don't forget that 6100 swapped identities with 6152 The King's Dragoon Guardsman for the USA tour in 1933 and they never swapped back. I imagine there is some evidence that 6100's frames were originally those of 6152. Just pray they don't rename 6000 King Charles III when Charlie boy ascends the throne!
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I never even knew Royal Scot ever swapped identities.
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6229 Duchess of Hamilton also swapped with 6220 Coronation in 1939 for another USA tour but they reverted to their original identities in 1943.
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I'm aware that 46229 Duchess of Hamilton swapped identities with 46220 Coronation, for they wanted to send one of the latest batch. But I was unaware that 46100 ever swapped identities with any of its sisters!
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Yes Royal Scot is still really The Kings Dragoon Guardsman. It's a pity in my view that Tyseley changed Albert Hall to Rood Ashton Hall When they found the latter's number on the frames. The loco was withdrawn as Albert Hall, a much better and more famous name than Rood Ashton and it was clearly the name that British Railways wished to apply to the locomotive. I feel this should have been respected. Instead they chose to rewrite history, one of the more unpleasant traits of the preservation movement.
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Maybe so, but that's their decision. At least they gave him a name that still has an "A" in it!
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Their decision but still my opinion!
You might be interested in this thread that I found yesterday:
www.national-preservation.com/…
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Especially the bit about Kenneth More. I'd never heard that one.
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A good perspective of this. Excellent shot, buddy!
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You are welcome, kind Sir.
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