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In progress...Who has any historical suggestions?
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Thanks, but I can't take credit for the style 
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The British intervene in the Texan revolution they annex the Yucatan and in a treaty with Guatemala return Belize in exchange Guatemala recognizes and supports their claim to New Jamaica (mosquito coast, an alternative name as it may be governed from that island and I don't know what to call that region). The UK also supplies weapons to Guatemala and a blind eye to their support of revolutionaries in southern Mexico most notably territory they claim. Texas isn't outright annexed because of the US but the UK has a firm presence in Houston (here their capital not Austin), The border with Mexico is unstable, the US has a neutral view so long as their borders aren't beached. Texas and the British Empire recognizing the area on the map, Mexico the green, the US staying out but eyeing Canada should conflict occur. While the British have plans to turn a border conflict into their change to gain control over California.
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An interesting scenario, but you do know that this map isn't of alternate history right?
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No I didn't I thought you were looking for a what if scenario.
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Oh I see. When I said "historical suggestions" I meant like any knowledge of OTL history that I might have forgotten. This map is one of actual territorial evolution. Not alt. history. Sorry 'bout the confusion.
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Nope, this is hours upon hours of research so that I could create the most historically accurate map of Central America on the planet.
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WOW that...that makes you sound a bit dementedly obsessive for this United Central America thing.
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Its more like, there are very few sources of historical information concerning Central American history and much of it isn't actually set in stone. Most cartographers include borders in their maps with POD's in the early 1800s that weren't even thought up until the 1880s and 1890s. Central American borders are just so iffy and blurred throughout history and even when a part of a map is correct, other parts of the map won't be. By doing this I wanted to bring together all of the different parts of Central American history and show that some parts of the western hemisphere have borders just as confusing and complicated as those in 19th century Europe. Just look at Los Altos. As far a I can tell, Los Altos has no definite borders.
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... WOW!! Now that's what I call devotion.
But I have to ask, do you know of any books
or articles related to the July Revolution?
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Sadly, most of my knowledge of the French Revolution only concerns how it affected Spain's New World colonies and not Europe itself, so nope.
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It's okay, I like trying to be an all rounder when it comes to this alternate world stuff.
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Obviously, I mostly stick with North America, South America, and Oceania.
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Ah.
Actually after doing some surfing on the internet, I have come to the conclusion
that Gran Colombia could have survived if Francisco de Miranda managed to keep
his power.
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I'm currently researching:
-Tampico Affair
-Occupation of Veracruz
-Mexican Revolution
-ABC Powers/Niagara Conference
-Zimmerman Telegram
I think that if the Niagara Conference had failed to ease tensions between the USA and Mexico in 1914, then the USA wouldn't have pulled out of Veracruz, a different rebel leader would have taken control after Huerta fell with American support, and the Zimmerman Telegram would not have been interpreted by Americans as a British ploy in 1917. As a result, the excursions of Pancho Villa would have been taken with more hostility and the US would have declared war on Mexico when it declared war on Germany. In the end, the USA would defeat Mexico within a year and Germany would have surrendered a year later in 1919. Mexico would be split into different rebel factions and some northern states would be under permanent military occupation to ensure stability and protect American interests and citizens. I read today that if WWI had lasted longer into 1919, then the Germans would have surrendered later and accepted that they really had been defeated, instead of harboring the resentment that led to WWII.
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....Uhhh what does this have to do with this man I was talking about latinamericanhistory.about.com… ?
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Nothin. I just don't know much about him beyond the role he played in the life of Simon Bolivar :3
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From the information on the website I gave you the link to, Miranda
and his republicans started loosing support by a powerful earthquake
in 1812. This led to him being given supreme military power by his
followers, but made some decisions which led to Simon Bolivar arresting
him
So my thinking is that if there was no earthquake then the Francisco and
republican followers could have kept their support, create an analogue for
Gran Colombia under a more unified government, and lessening the amount
of regionalism in Spanish America.
Also are you watching the World Cup?
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That would actually make sense. I've only watched the USA-Germany, USA-Belgium, France-Germany, and Brazil-Colombia games. I actually really hope that Brazil wins. They need it badly.
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Well right now it's between Belgium and Argentina, and
the Argentinians are in the lead.
Next game is Costa Rica vs the Netherlands.
My dad told me Brazil might be in peril because one of it's
players got a broken vertebrae, and the coach got a yellow
card.
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Even if they're down on their luck, a win from them might ease up some of the issues they have at home.
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Yeah the national pride felt by the populace would
give credit to the current government in power
Also I made mistake, it was the CAPTAIN that got one
of his vertebrae broken. And the top kicker getting the
yellow card twice.
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My family was cheering for the Netherlands (because I am half Dutch) and I was cheering for Costa Rica (because one of my best friends is Costa Rican) and he all but died
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Well it started out neutral, but I moved to support Costa Rica.
But my goodness this is like the FOURTH time that a game had
to go into penalty shots.
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This looks to be in the style of 1Blomma's historical maps, in which case I think it looks really awesome. Can't really suggest anything other than cities and such of course, but I think it is looking great so far.
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I actually found the base map of Europe that 1Blomma used for those three maps. The base map uses most of the same colors that 1Blomma uses and has much of the same historical border changes he put on his map. Obviously, he made his maps much more detailed and colorful than the base map, but I feel better knowing that I'm not the only one who uses non-original styles all of the time. This was one of those "If he can do it, then so can I" type things, although I've probably spent much less time on it than he on his. I've got the cities on the map, but I hid them on this version because I haven't gotten around to naming them.
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Well all I can say is that when I saw this pop up on my updates, I thought it was a 1Blomma map. Fantastic work, for sure. 
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www.zonu.com/detail-en/2010-01…
It is the map, but I think he found the original, while this is just a picture of it I think.
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