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There's a common misconception that evolution states that we came directly from monkeys. This is false. Evolution states that we share a common ancestry with them.Stamp base by --> [link]
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Yes but by using that logic you can go back far enough and say that we are still fish, back when our earlier vertebrate ancestors were the size of a thumbnail and had nothing but a stiff backboneΒ
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... Well Chordates came first, that is, having a spinal cord.Β They were Fish like, but we aren't fish.
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We aren't like Monkeys either, Monkeys have tails, apes do not
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Tail bone, duh.
Apes are monkeys too.Β As are all catarhines, which is a clade we're in.Β All Catarhines are monkeys because the parent clade haplorhines are also all monkeys, divided by new world and old world variations.
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Yes but that's like saying all Pterosaurs are Dinosaurs, they're not. Pterosaurs simply diverted into their own group from an ancestor to both them and dinosaurs
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No, it's not.Β Pterosaurs aren't dinosaurs and nobody ever said that.Β They are Archosaurs though, which has dinosaurs, pterosaurs and crocodilians.
You clearly don't know your taxonomy.
Birds are dinosaurs, but pterosaurs aren't dinosaurs.
Dimetrodon inst a dinosaur either, it's actually one of our ancestors, or at least it represents mammalian ancestors.
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I know that, I'm just saying that using the logic of apes being monkeys wouldn't that also mean that Pterosaurs are dinosaurs? It doesn't make sense
Also yes I know what dimetrodon is, I know about the Synapsid family lol
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No.Β I just said Pterosaurs are not dinosaurs.Β They're cousins of dinosaurs just like crocodiles are.Β The parent clade is Archisaurs.
The parent clade of Apes is basically monkeys.
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Well are they basically Monkeys? Or are they actual Monkeys?
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Apes are monkeys.Β All Catarrhines are.
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But they aren't Monkeys, they are related to monkeys yes, but if you go to their genetics there is a significant difference
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I don't think you understand how phylogeny works and I'm not going to go in an endless circular argument.Β I'm not interested.
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Fair enough, I'll consider doing some research into it after this discussion though
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQP_Rβ¦
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Thanks! I'll begin watching it
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You don't know the difference between Apes and monkeys, do you? We are apes... Not monkeys.
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Uhh Β read a cladogram.Β drive.google.com/file/d/0B8wyDβ¦
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Β Your 'Uh' assures me most certainly, Impious
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Way to nitpick someones 6 am remark as to mock theirnintelo if ence. Β Fuck off man. Β I'm too tired for your snarkΒ
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Welcome to the internet then. Everyone has an opinion, says that others don't matter, and remark claims that are mostly false. It's simply a Rule of the Internet. My snark is sarcasmy grace my dude, 6 am ruins that part then, huh? Good luck convincing people that we're monkeys. That'll help us try convince the world evolution is just a bunch of monkeys decided to evolve into a tail less, heavier ape for no reason. Another tip on trying to not get your head boiled over- don't reply... Simple.
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Bro, you have no idea how evolution works, or have any understanding of how taxonomy works.Β
See that video and get outta my hair.
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Last comment. Evolution theory is different for everyone. That probably includes the moron me that is more into Quantum physics. But to my simple decaffeinated mind, are you saying this:
Early primate ancestor (similar to monkey today?) -> Branches off to differing branches (great apes, monkeys, lemurs, etc etc....) -> Person
Because that truth I accept, sure we evolved from a species of monkeys then. But not true monkeys, just monkey like primates.
Unless you're saying this. People are in the monkey tree- which my speed reading found somehow. That was mostly the argument I was debating about (actually not really debating). Simply stating monkey puts off people and have us think about the modern monkey.
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........no. Β no its not different for everyone.Β
Even if we were from the monkey tree we'd still be monkeys in the same way that a golden reteiver is still a dog and a dog is still a wolf and a wolf.is still a canid and so on.
A house cat and leopard and a puma are all as much cats as lions and tigers are. Β Their catness is the same as our monkey-ness.
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Apes are catarhinnes which are a member of the haplorhines. Β All of which are monkeys.Β
Look at a cladogram. I made one just for you. Β drive.google.com/file/d/0B8wyDβ¦
Apes have every single feature that monkeys do. Β Indont see how you can say we're apes but somehow bot also a member of the parent clade.
Old world monkeys and platarhines are distinct from eachother, basicly in how the nose holes are splayed in new world and pointed down in old world monkeys. Β Just like ours. Β A trait we share with every single ape and monkey in Africa and asia.
The monkey ear, our ear, is unique in the animal kingdom and seen only in monkeys.
We also have a tail bone which is a reduced tail.
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This might help...
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We aren't really talking about rocket science here, it's simple logic. Do you also know who has shortened, hidden tails? Apes. We are part of the Great apes family- last time I've checked.
i.imgur.com/smJ5NLJ.png
tbh this is a silly debate over a single word. Monkey refers to a generic primate with a tail, monkeys rely heavily on their tails for climbing. Apes and Great apes may also climb, but are heavier in size and more intelligent.
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It depends on semantics, AronRa has his own thing to say about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-dMqβ¦
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Isn't it more of a common ancestor that evolved into seperate species and groups?
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There is no proof of apes changing into men. That's why they're still apes and they don't change ever.
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Also humans are apes. And again we have tremendous amounts of fossil evidence to suggest otherwise.
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O rly? Then look at dis shit.
This is the fossil of a bipedal ape.
www.google.com/search?q=austraβ¦
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Nice try, but that is fabricated. The only known kind of evolution there is macroevolution, where one species adapts to it's environment such as birds growing different beaks and feathers. As for kinds to develop into other kinds, hahaha no.
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But we have evidence of that within transitional species of whales and amphibians. To ignore that and even state their fabrication is ludicrous.
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leave it, he's trying to make you believe in magical men creating the universe 6000 yrs agoΒ
don't you understand youngh earth creatonists are immume to arguments.
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What's even more ludicrous is that he states macroevolution exists. Evolution as a whole exists and tacking on micro and macro at the front do nothing to it.
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Monkeys, great apes, humans, are all "Homo-" We all have two legs, two arms, hair, give live birth, yadda yadda yadda...
The prefix just means that we are of the same genus, not the same race. It's the scientific last name that defines a race. "-sapiens" is our last name.
We are technically our own race of extremely smart and big monkey, If you think about it
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THANK YOU IM SO SICK OF HEARING THIS! And it doesn't mean you can't be Christian either!!
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It does state, that we are hominids, hominoids, apes, old world monkeys, primates, placental mammals, mammals, synapsids, amniotes, tetrapods, flesh finners, skull animals, vertebrates, chordates, newmouthers, symmetrical animals, animals, eucaryots, terrestrial lifeforms and descendants of freaking macromolecules.
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Q: If people came from monkeys ... Why are there still monkeys?
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I guess I'm something in the middle when it comes to religion and science,
I doubt there's really a true god that started it all, there science makes loads of more sense for me,
but a life is so very short, compared to the world itself, me, like many others prolly do,
doubt dying is the last step before disappearance---wait, that was not related to the stamp...errrrrr
So true! I always liked fish and Stegosaurus and other dinosaurs! 
but yeaaaa, at least, we're not -only- from apes/monkeys/whatever,
I'd guess, we're mixes, hybrids. c:
itsa guess tho @@
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I know that. Chimpanzees, apes, and humans all came from a "common ancestor." I am not an Evolutionist. I'm a Creationist. Problem?
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Here's someone who has no idea what they're talking about. I'm sure she'll provide an entertaining argument if any at all.
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The stupid . . . it hurts.
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